**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** -------- Original Message -------- Subject: some words on module E and D From: "hyat@canaan" <hyat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Module E: This was a wonderful text. But both the text and the questions were far more difficult than the NBA sample test, the mock exams on the TAMID site, and the tests I've given and read in the Eric Cohen Practice Papers. The grammar required in the sentence completions was very demanding with respect to the fact that the sentence is halfway built. In the Eric Cohen book I could find only one example of such a question. The vast majority are open sentences, by which I mean that the pupil has an open line on which to respond. The latter allows for much more freedom of language (according to the grading criteria even fragments are acceptable). Question number one does not. I quote: We can understand that Manfred Beller's advisers believed that people would_____________________________________________________________________________. Regarding question two, I found the wording of the question very unclear. I'll quote this one too: 2. COMPLETE THE SENTENCE ACCORDING TO LINES 6-18 Pencil fans believe that the advantages mentioned in lines 6-10 are _________________________________ Well, are we talking of lines 6-10 or 6-18?! Beyond this I found that the question itself--after scrutinizing lines 6-10 and then 6-18--to be extremely difficult, certainly beyond the ability of most four pointers. On the other hand--and this is the clincher--the same question was given on the five point (old format bagrut). However on the five point exam, the question was much clearer. Judge for yourself: FILL IN THE MISSING WORDS (1-2 WORDS IN EACH SPACE) ACCORDING TO PARAGRAPHS II AND III [lines 6-18]. 1(b) Pencil enthusiasts believe that the ____________________________ of the pencil that are mentioned in paragraph II are not _________________________. Why, should a five point test be markedly more clear and structured than a four point exam? Granted, you could say that E is part of five points--but it should be the easier part of five, and a straight forward five point test shouldn't have a question that is easier than a four point test. And the cherry on top is that the Module E question is worth 10 points, and the 5 point question is worth 4 points. Regarding D. Right now I'm too tired to go launch into D (It's 1:40 am) but, in brief, I was amazed to see that the text, "A Decade of Great Radio" was also offered on the 5 point exam (old format). However on the 5 point exam it was shorter and easier! Furthermore the questions on the Module D (which means an intermediate 4 point level test, not connected to 5 pts at all) demanded much more abstract thinking. I am not imagining this and I hope that someone else will help prove the point with me so that our friends in the Ministry might find it justified to readjust the grading scales of D and E. Lila Tov, David Hyatt ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####