-------- Original Message -------- From: Rivka Lewenstein <rlewen@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Reading straight off power point Barry, As a fellow ETAI speaker / attendee, I agree with you. (Everyone who hates my talks - please come and tell me so to my face.) As a former conference committee member, however, I can tell you how hard it is to find enough volunteers to give talks. From my experience, ETAI does try to weed out the most problematic speakers (at least for the Jerusalem conference, don't know what goes on in other conferences), but that's only after getting extensive negative feedback about a speaker. Regarding the talks you described, you should talk to / e-mail the conference conveners and tell them about it, and the same goes for anyone else who had a bad experience. Obviously, tastes differ, so you might hate a talk that I love, but a talk concluding with "I didn't put much work into this" would insult anyone, I think. All the best, Rivka Barry wrote: > I am deliberately sending this to the wider ETNI list, although it concerns ETAI conferences. Not long ago a green eyed colleague asked me how much I get per ETAI=20 presentation. She was shocked to discover that the answer is less than zero. The point : ETAI presenters are generous volunteers. So, should they be=20 subject to criticism? I say, yes. If I've already schlepped out to a conference, I don't want to see someone reading from a powerpoint presentation word by word. By time I realize what i've gotten myself into, it's not easy to extricate myself and leave. There must be some way that the conveners can weed out such presenations. Not long ago, I actually heard someone conclude her talk with, "Well, if you didn't find this interesting, don't worry, I didn't put a lot of work into it." This was Mammash insulting. ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------