[erasingblindness] Re: iPad
- From: Siena Trigiani <siena.trigiani@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: erasingblindness@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 09:40:46 -0400
Hi Chris,
My sister has a regular iPad, and I have the iPad mini. Before getting
the iPad Mini, my sister let me borrow her iPad for a week, so I
really got to play with it with Voiceover. I like the bigger screen,
and I like the fact that you can type on it with both hands, and
position your fingers as if you were typing on a regular keyboard. Of
course, you can use it with a bluetooth keyboard as well, but when
you're sending quick iMessages and emails, the onscreen keyboard does
the trick. I myself have an iPad Mini, and find that it works better
for me than a regular iPad since I don't really need that big a
screen. Also, I use the iPad Mini in class, and I'm in a lecture hall
for a lot of my classes where space is limited, so I found that the
mini worked better for me for that reason as well. I would strongly
encourage you to play with both with Voiceover to really get a feel
for both.
Let us know how it goes!
Cheers,
Siena.
On 10/31/13, Blindness Eraser <blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Oh ok.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris H <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxx
> To: erasingblindness@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 20:33:47 +0000
> Subject: [erasingblindness] Re: iPad
>
> Could do this next time. It was just in a group setting that was
> all and
> wasn't sure if she uses it for work or not but presume so as she
> had it
> on her obviously.
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> On 31/10/2013 19:44, Blindness Eraser wrote:
> Could you not have told her to turn VoiceOver on, then you could
> look at
> it and try it out and turn it off when you were done with it?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Chris H <christopherh40@xxxxxxxxx
> To: erasingblindness@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date sent: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 17:00:06 +0000
> Subject: [erasingblindness] iPad
>
> Good evening all again.
> Well finally had chance to look at an iPad today at the group!
> A member of staff has one, an iPad 4 3G model.
> All I can say is wow! I like the bigger screen very much! I was
> able to
> tap around with two hands, something I can't do with an iPhone.
> She is not a VoiceOver user so couldn't really get to play with
> it. But
> least I now have an idea and can see myself using one in the
> future.
> Just got to look at an iPad mini now for comparison.
> Kind regards
> Chris.
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> blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx and I will send you the attachment. I
> will never turn digest mode
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> this list, please say in the body of
> the message that your message has an attachment in it or put has
> attachment as part of the
> subject line. That way, people who have digest mode on will know
> that there was an
> attachment posted to the list. Attachments are also archived and
> only attachments known to
> carry viruses are filtered from them. Thank you.
> To post to the list: send your email to erasingblindness@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.
> There are three methods
> you can use to subscribe to the list. Please only use method three if you
> have tried method one
> and method two and they both did not work.
>
> METHOD ONE.
>
> Send an email to erasingblindness-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in
> the Subject field
> and an empty message body and then follow the instructions in the
> confirmation email. If you
> do not get a confirmation email in your inbox within five minutes of sending
> your subscribe
> email to erasingblindness-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx then look for the
> confirmation email in other
> folders such as your spam folder or junk folder. Different email providers
> call that folder
> different names, but it is the same thing.
>
> METHOD TWO.
>
> Visit the list page at //www.freelists.org/list/erasingblindness. On
> that page, fill in your email
> address and pick subscribe from the list of options.
>
> METHOD THREE.
>
> Email me, the list owner, at blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx and tell me that you
> would like to be
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> want subscribed.
> Then I will do your subscription for you. Please specify which email address
> you would like to
> be subscribed to the list with. Do not send an email and ask me to subscribe
> you without saying
> which email address you want to be subscribed to the list with. Some people
> have more then
> one email address and I will not know if the email address you used to email
> me with is the one
> you want to be subscribed to the list with or not unless you tell me.
>
> The email address you are subscribed to the list with is the email address
> that all the messages
> from everyone else on the list will go to. It is also the email address you
> will need to use to send
> messages to the list. To post to the list, send your message from the email
> address you are
> subscribed to the list to with to the email address
> erasingblindness@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.
>
> If the email address you used to send your message to the list to is not
> subscribed, then it will
> not go to the list. It will just come to me. To look at the list archives,
> go to:
> www.freelists.org/archive/erasingblindness. To unsubscribe from this list:
> send an email to
> erasingblindness-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject
> field and an empty
> message body and then follow the instructions in the confirmation email or
> visit the list page at
> //www.freelists.org/list/erasingblindness. On that page, fill in your
> email address and pick
> unsubscribe from the list of options. You can also change your list settings
> at
> //www.freelists.org/list/erasingblindness. There is also a FAQ at
> //www.freelists.org/wiki/the_faq This FAQ is not specific to this list.
> The FAQ has answers
> to general questions about the website www.freelists.org which is the
> website that this list is
> hosted on. If you have any questions or comments about this list or how it
> is run, please do not
> ask them on list. Please direct these questions and comments to
> blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx.
> Also check out the blog that goes with this list at
> www.blindnesseraserblog.wordpress.com. On
> the Erasing Blindness Blog , you will find: links to websites and mailing
> lists I think are useful to
> blind and visually impaired people. I will also post links to websites and
> mailing lists where
> people who can see can go to learn about blindness and visual impairments as
> well as what
> causes them and how to prevent them or lessen their effect on blind or
> visually impaired people
> as well as their friends, families and coworkers. If there is a website or
> mailing list you think
> should be included, but you can not find it, you can suggest it and I will
> post it. If you have any
> questions or comments about the Erasing Blindness Blog and or Mailing List,
> please feel free to
> email blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx. If you know anyone you think may benefit
> from this mailing
> list, please tell them about it. Also if you are on any mailing lists or
> forums where it is
> appropriate to do so, please give this mailing list a mention on there as
> well. Face Book, Twitter
> and blogs are also good ways to let people know about this list. Also feel
> free to use any other
> method of communication you can think of to spread the word about this list.
> Thank you.
>
> LIST DESCRIPTION.
>
> Are you blind or visually impaired and tired of being on a bunch of
> different mailing lists
> because each list will only let you talk about one topic? Well those days
> are over. This list is for
> blind and visually impaired people to talk about their disabilities and ways
> to overcome them
> and for people who can see to talk about blindness and visual impairments as
> well as what
> causes them and how to prevent them or lessen their effect on blind or
> visually impaired people
> as well as their friends, families and coworkers. We can talk about adaptive
> technology(
> hardware and software) from Humanware, Freedom Scientific, Hims, Apple and
> other
> companies. As well as that, we can talk about which websites are and are not
> accessible to
> blind and visually impaired people who use screen readers or note takers to
> go on the internet.
> All kinds of accessible games can also be talked about. We can also talk
> about the basics like
> orientation and mobility and braille. It is ok to talk about anything to do
> with blindness. The
> topics listed here do not have to be the only things we talk about. They are
> just some
> examples. If you are blind or visually impaired and want to learn how to
> make your life easier
> and more fun or you are a person who can see and you want to learn about
> blindness and
> visual impairments as well as what causes them and how to prevent them or
> lessen their effect
> on blind or visually impaired people as well as their friends, families and
> coworkers, then please
> join this list. This list is in English. Also check out the Erasing
> Blindness Blog that goes with this
> list at www.blindnesseraserblog.wordpress.com. If you have any questions or
> comments about
> the Erasing Blindness Mailing List and or Blog, please feel free to email
> blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx. Thank you. End of list description.
>
> GENERAL GUIDELINES
>
> Please keep the subject lines up to date with what is being talked about in
> the message bodies.
> If you have a question you want to ask or you want to say something and it
> does not fit in with
> any of the current threads, then please start a new thread. Also, if you
> have digest mode on
> and you find a message in the digest you want to reply to, please change the
> subject to
> something more specific then the subject of the digest email, for example-
> re: erasingblindness
> Digest V1 #6. Cut the other messages out of your reply and just leave in the
> message you are
> replying to so that you do not end up forwarding the whole digest to the
> list. That way, list
> members who have digest mode off do not need to read through list emails
> twice. I do not want
> any members of this list bossing or attacking any of the other list members.
> If anyone feels like
> they have been bossed around or attacked by anyone else on this list, please
> email
> blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx and tell me about it so we can try to sort it
> out.
>
> ABOUT ATTACHMENTS
>
> If you have an article, document, game file, short audio file or anything
> else you would like to
> share, please do so. You can email any file type as long as it is not a
> virus. Total message size
> is limited to 5 MB. This includes your attachment as well as what you write
> in your email.
> Please note that people who have digest mode off will receive attachments
> sent to the list, but
> people who have digest mode on will not receive these attachments. For
> people who have
> digest mode on, if there is an attachment that was sent to the list and you
> want it, please email
> blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx and I will send you the attachment. I will never
> turn digest mode
> on for myself on this list. For people who post attachments to this list,
> please say in the body of
> the message that your message has an attachment in it or put has attachment
> as part of the
> subject line. That way, people who have digest mode on will know that there
> was an
> attachment posted to the list. Attachments are also archived and only
> attachments known to
> carry viruses are filtered from them. Thank you.
>
To post to the list: send your email to erasingblindness@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. There
are three methods
you can use to subscribe to the list. Please only use method three if you have
tried method one
and method two and they both did not work.
METHOD ONE.
Send an email to erasingblindness-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the
Subject field
and an empty message body and then follow the instructions in the confirmation
email. If you
do not get a confirmation email in your inbox within five minutes of sending
your subscribe
email to erasingblindness-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx then look for the confirmation
email in other
folders such as your spam folder or junk folder. Different email providers call
that folder
different names, but it is the same thing.
METHOD TWO.
Visit the list page at //www.freelists.org/list/erasingblindness. On that
page, fill in your email
address and pick subscribe from the list of options.
METHOD THREE.
Email me, the list owner, at blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx and tell me that you
would like to be
subscribed to the erasing blindness list and tell me what email address you
want subscribed.
Then I will do your subscription for you. Please specify which email address
you would like to
be subscribed to the list with. Do not send an email and ask me to subscribe
you without saying
which email address you want to be subscribed to the list with. Some people
have more then
one email address and I will not know if the email address you used to email me
with is the one
you want to be subscribed to the list with or not unless you tell me.
The email address you are subscribed to the list with is the email address that
all the messages
from everyone else on the list will go to. It is also the email address you
will need to use to send
messages to the list. To post to the list, send your message from the email
address you are
subscribed to the list to with to the email address
erasingblindness@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.
If the email address you used to send your message to the list to is not
subscribed, then it will
not go to the list. It will just come to me. To look at the list archives, go
to:
www.freelists.org/archive/erasingblindness. To unsubscribe from this list: send
an email to
erasingblindness-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field
and an empty
message body and then follow the instructions in the confirmation email or
visit the list page at
//www.freelists.org/list/erasingblindness. On that page, fill in your
email address and pick
unsubscribe from the list of options. You can also change your list settings at
//www.freelists.org/list/erasingblindness. There is also a FAQ at
//www.freelists.org/wiki/the_faq This FAQ is not specific to this list.
The FAQ has answers
to general questions about the website www.freelists.org which is the website
that this list is
hosted on. If you have any questions or comments about this list or how it is
run, please do not
ask them on list. Please direct these questions and comments to
blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx.
Also check out the blog that goes with this list at
www.blindnesseraserblog.wordpress.com. On
the Erasing Blindness Blog , you will find: links to websites and mailing lists
I think are useful to
blind and visually impaired people. I will also post links to websites and
mailing lists where
people who can see can go to learn about blindness and visual impairments as
well as what
causes them and how to prevent them or lessen their effect on blind or visually
impaired people
as well as their friends, families and coworkers. If there is a website or
mailing list you think
should be included, but you can not find it, you can suggest it and I will post
it. If you have any
questions or comments about the Erasing Blindness Blog and or Mailing List,
please feel free to
email blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx. If you know anyone you think may benefit from
this mailing
list, please tell them about it. Also if you are on any mailing lists or forums
where it is
appropriate to do so, please give this mailing list a mention on there as well.
Face Book, Twitter
and blogs are also good ways to let people know about this list. Also feel free
to use any other
method of communication you can think of to spread the word about this list.
Thank you.
LIST DESCRIPTION.
Are you blind or visually impaired and tired of being on a bunch of different
mailing lists
because each list will only let you talk about one topic? Well those days are
over. This list is for
blind and visually impaired people to talk about their disabilities and ways to
overcome them
and for people who can see to talk about blindness and visual impairments as
well as what
causes them and how to prevent them or lessen their effect on blind or visually
impaired people
as well as their friends, families and coworkers. We can talk about adaptive
technology(
hardware and software) from Humanware, Freedom Scientific, Hims, Apple and
other
companies. As well as that, we can talk about which websites are and are not
accessible to
blind and visually impaired people who use screen readers or note takers to go
on the internet.
All kinds of accessible games can also be talked about. We can also talk about
the basics like
orientation and mobility and braille. It is ok to talk about anything to do
with blindness. The
topics listed here do not have to be the only things we talk about. They are
just some
examples. If you are blind or visually impaired and want to learn how to make
your life easier
and more fun or you are a person who can see and you want to learn about
blindness and
visual impairments as well as what causes them and how to prevent them or
lessen their effect
on blind or visually impaired people as well as their friends, families and
coworkers, then please
join this list. This list is in English. Also check out the Erasing Blindness
Blog that goes with this
list at www.blindnesseraserblog.wordpress.com. If you have any questions or
comments about
the Erasing Blindness Mailing List and or Blog, please feel free to email
blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx. Thank you. End of list description.
GENERAL GUIDELINES
Please keep the subject lines up to date with what is being talked about in the
message bodies.
If you have a question you want to ask or you want to say something and it does
not fit in with
any of the current threads, then please start a new thread. Also, if you have
digest mode on
and you find a message in the digest you want to reply to, please change the
subject to
something more specific then the subject of the digest email, for example- re:
erasingblindness
Digest V1 #6. Cut the other messages out of your reply and just leave in the
message you are
replying to so that you do not end up forwarding the whole digest to the list.
That way, list
members who have digest mode off do not need to read through list emails twice.
I do not want
any members of this list bossing or attacking any of the other list members. If
anyone feels like
they have been bossed around or attacked by anyone else on this list, please
email
blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx and tell me about it so we can try to sort it out.
ABOUT ATTACHMENTS
If you have an article, document, game file, short audio file or anything else
you would like to
share, please do so. You can email any file type as long as it is not a virus.
Total message size
is limited to 5 MB. This includes your attachment as well as what you write in
your email.
Please note that people who have digest mode off will receive attachments sent
to the list, but
people who have digest mode on will not receive these attachments. For people
who have
digest mode on, if there is an attachment that was sent to the list and you
want it, please email
blindnesseraser@xxxxxxxxx and I will send you the attachment. I will never turn
digest mode
on for myself on this list. For people who post attachments to this list,
please say in the body of
the message that your message has an attachment in it or put has attachment as
part of the
subject line. That way, people who have digest mode on will know that there was
an
attachment posted to the list. Attachments are also archived and only
attachments known to
carry viruses are filtered from them. Thank you.
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