That sucks!!! Brrr I really don't want to see that white stuff coming. Yesterday was also near 60 here, today was supposed to get near 50 but only made It to 43 and was very cloudy, breezy all day. Supposed to be 27 tomorrow and freezing rain from about midnight tonight till maybe noon. I don't think we are supposed to get any of the snow yet though Thursdays high is around 15. Bummer!!! I have started putting the Toyota in the new part of the garage, no floor yet but no frost on the truck J putting some small burnout marks in the garage though- it takes a bit to get the front tires back out of the drop off- and the smooth floor doesn't give the truck enough traction. From: elky-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:elky-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Buck Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 5:38 PM To: elky@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [elky] Re: Win 8.1 & weather (was: Re: First email from the sea monster) Probably Start8. That really DOES make a difference. At least you get yer desktop back and stuff doesn't pop up at ya when ya get yer mouse in some secret location. I'm still tryin to get rid of the task bar balloons that pop up when ya mouse over it. But it's gettin more and more useable. I'm with ya on the Apple sheeple as well as the tablet thing. Btw, we're in the middle of a huge snow storm. Last nite around 2 am, it was 56F. Around 6 it had dropped to 34. Right now, it's 27...and gettin colder. Forecast low is 19, then 10, 8 and 12 over the next few daze. r On 11/30/2013 7:53 AM, Robert Adams wrote: The first thing I did to Alex's laptop when she got it a while back was to install classic start menu and another program I can't remember. Made a world of difference. Microsoft is falling into the apple sheeple movement of making software so people don't have to learn how to use it but by doing so they reduce the functionality Robert Adams. On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Ray Buck <rbuck@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Sorry for the delay in responding to this. I'm still workin on stuff. I put the Leviathan into "production status" yesterday and I've been re-installing a lotta software. The fisheye kinda distorts stuff, but the whole mess is visible here. Re: trackball. I worked with it for a while, but I found that I didn't have sufficient control of the ball with either hand. I'm right-handed but left-moused. :) I gave it to my oldest son cuz he uses one...I figger he can use it for a backup. My other son and his wife both have those fruit things (Macbooks) and I don't like the idea of giving my money to that company. Besides...no Mac could do what either of my "big boxes" could do. I understand they're coming out with an expandable desktop, but it won't be out for a while. On the new box, I use a CM Storm Recon ambidextrous mouse with back/forward buttons on either side...and the illumination color can be changed, red, blue or purple. Bling, but it's kinda kool. I also use a Perixx PX-1100, mechanical backlit keyboard which has a nice, tactile feel and sound. The mouse and keyboard are routed to the system via a red lighted mouse pad with 4 port USB hub. With this I can use a single USB port for both components and still have a coupla ports for a card reader or my SansaClip mp3 player (I'm addicted to audiobooks...mostly 19th and early 20th century mysteries.) Btw, that theme that's seen in the above photo has some of the nicest, sharpest sports car images I've seen. The Ferrari 330 P3/4 is a gorgeous photo of a gorgeous car. Windoze 8 seems like a cure for which there's no known disease, unless ya use a tablet/touchscreen device. I don't care for the sharp-edged windows and there's no quick launch bar...I've created a kustom toolbar and put program shortcuts there (it's just a folder) it's not the best solution, but it works for now. As W8 comes outta the box (or download) the "Show Desktop", instead of being a quick launch icon is a hidden area of the system tray. I found that a program called Start8 that, along with Classic Start Menu allows the disabling/modifying most of the annoying W8 "features." One of the things I found kinda hard to get used to when it came out with Win XP was "My Computer." Well, I got used to it and now they've changed it to "This PC." Then there's the balloon that pops up as you mouse over the taskbar. This was a W7 thing and I dealt with by entering a large value in the time before the balloon appears...but I can't remember where that was (registry entry), so I'll keep searching on the web. I think it was on sevenforums.com. There's a companion site, windows8.com that I'm starting to blunder my way thru. On the whole, I wish I coulda stayed with W7...but that won't run on the mobo I'm using (said to be a driver issue). Now...all I have to do is reconfigure things so I can log into my server box. r On 11/25/2013 12:15 PM, Chris Lindh wrote: Crazy that you had so many faulty components. Sounds like you are getting it figured out. I would be paranoid with real water cooling, I have the self contained system which has been great. Do you still use a trackball? The M570 I use is really more a mouse with a ball for your thumb, it is a lifesaver using two screens. I now use a mechanical switch keyboard, noisy but I like the tactile click. (Cherry switches)