It seems after reading through the articles and the various responses sent in so far, everyone has similar feelings. Even though there is technology available to run papers through cheat detectors, we need to solve the problem before it happens. It is similar to speeding in that respect - is it better to keep inventing radar guns to beat radar detectors that were built to beat radar guns, etc, etc. Just like it is far better to spend our time teaching the dangers of speeding and not just improving the technology used to catch speeders; we must also teach students to take ownership in their work and not produce it wrongfully. An obvious (and a bit humerous) violation I witnessed was in one of our Social Studies classes last year. The students were giving oral presentations of a particular research assignment they were given. They were allowed to use notecards while speaking to assist them. Although some of the difficult vocabulary being used by a few students was a good indication that they were merely reciting information they had read, we had a "perfect" example of cut and paste. This student, who not only cut and paste the actual article right onto the notecards (didn't even copy it by hand), must have also forgot to proofread his speech. Halfway through his presentation he was reading along from his cards and after completing a sentence said "see picture below". Obviously since he has no "picture", it was very easy for everyone-even the other students to pick up on his plagiarism. I have seen many other instances from papers on file at college to people actually using the older brothers or sisters reports. A good way to prevent this may be to change the assignment. Possibly not just a report, but a compare / contrast of differnet topics or an opinion paper on a current event. Another approach may be to make citing sources easy so students don't find it overbearring and choose to not do it. Danielle had a good observation when discussing coping pictures, where is the legal line. Especially when you can get your pictures developed onto a cd or view them on-line and then print them on pictue paper. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now ------------------------------------------------------------ Class website: http://www.greece.k12.ny.us/taylor/suny/ ------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from this listserv, go to: //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/list?list_id=edi581 If you have any problems, send an e-mail to: JerryTaylr@xxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------