[duxuser] Re: Slashes to translate exactly
- From: Dave Durber <dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 11 May 2004 15:27:53 -0400
Forgive me for saying so, but a certain level of logic has to be
applied here. When you are preparing a file in the DBT print editor
for preparation to be transcribed to a braille file, you would not
normally be distributing the file for general distribution E.g. among
your co-workers, etc., for example. If you did want to distribute the
file, there is a function that appears in most programs called "search
an replace" where you can undo the alterations to the file that you
had made in order to produce the braille file. Following that, you
could save the file to a DOS/ASCII-style format so that it might then
be imported into WordPerfect or Word and formatted accordingly.
Thank you George for the information about the [/] code. I will use
that code to force two characters not to be contracted instead of the
slash slash two character code that I am currently using.
Sincerely:
Dave Durber
On Tue, 11 May 2004 07:52:58 -0400, you wrote:
>Placing forward slashes into a print text to translate it exactly when
>going to braille seems a silly way to go, when word processors regularly
>handle things like this with a "Highlight, apply" approach to setting
>text apart from the rest. For example, why would the software writers
>not just have us highlight the word, or portion of the word, select from
>the translation menu, translate exactly or grade 1. That way the print
>version of the document would still be correct. This way the print
>version has two slashes in the middle of the word! How annoying would
>that be!
>
>Sandy
>
>
>
>dadurber@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>>With all due respect, your examples of AC being used as abbreviations
>>for Alternating current, air conditioning and atlantic are a bit
>>misleading, in my opinion. My reasoning is that the abbreviations
>>such as ac are normally interpreted by most people within the context
>>in which they are being used. For example, if you were talking about
>>AC in terms of equipment that is used for cooling a room, using the
>>term "AC" would obviously mean that you are talking about air
>>conditioning, unless you happened to be someone who did not know that
>>the initials AC was the commonly accepted abbreviation for air
>>conditioning.
>>
>>If you are using the English/American braille rule table, the two
>>words "primenet" and "usenet" are transcribed spelled out with no
>>contractions.
>>
>>If you are using the English/British braille rule table, the two words
>>"primenet" and "usenet" are transcribed with the letters E and N
>>contracted to the E N contraction.
>>
>>As I said in my previous E-mail response, you can force the E and N
>>contraction not to be performed by placing the cursor on the letter N
>>in either word and pressing the <slash> key twice. When the file is
>>transcribed into the braille file, DBT drops the two slash characters
>>and letters E and N appear side-by-side, the way you wanted them to
>>appear.
>>
>>This DBT two letter command is very useful at any time where you do
>>not want two letters being contracted in the output braille file.
>>
>>Today, I have explained how the abovementioned command can be used in
>>two different examples.
>>
>>I hope that these two explanations give some of you an idea how
>>powerful this command can be in producing an easy-to-read braille
>>document.
>>
>>Sincerely:
>>
>>Dave Durber
>>
>>On Mon, 10 May 2004 19:11:09 -0400 (EDT), you wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi, David,
>>>Your message was informative and I'm glad that as versions of DBT
>>>progress, some of these small inaccuracies are being dealt with. Next time
>>>you feel like experimenting, try "primenet" and "usenet" and let us know
>>>how those work out.
>>>I think you may have missed two of the main points of my soapbox. 1. Not
>>>all readers of braille are reading at the same level--e.g., a fairly young
>>>child or an adult new to braile. Some of the combinations reaulting from
>>>using correct braille are not easily recognized. A proficient braille
>>>reader might have to do a double-take (or double-read). A not so efficient
>>>braille reader might in fact be lost;by some of these pointless uses of
>>>contractions. "Can" was meant to stand for the word can as in ability, not
>>>for the metal container which is actually not the same word when you think
>>>about it.
>>>2. As electronics control more and more of what is produced in braille,
>>>what we read and what passes for correct is going to have less to do with
>>>that Philidelphia lawwbook of braille rules and more to do with what the
>>>electronics dictate.
>>>In the days before alphaspeak, the arbitrariness of the two-cell
>>>contractions used to stand for whole words didn't matter much. Who would
>>>know that ac would stand for air conditioning or alternating currant (or
>>>even Atlantic City)? Who would know that common speech would include the
>>>word cd or that tm would appear everywhere as the trademark symbol. Letter
>>>signs in braille used to indicate that letters were being used. Now they
>>>indicate that the next set of characters coming up is an obsolete grade
>>>two abbreviation.
>>>Catherine
>>>
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>-Catherine Thomas
>>>braille@xxxxxxxxx /
>>>
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