George, you left out the paper saving part about no capitals in Braille and paragraphs starting in the middle of a line, right after a period in the sentence at the end of the last paragraph. I hadn't connected it to saving paper due to the war. Interesting. ANN FOXWORTH, BRAILLE CONSULTANT MAIL CODE: 6804 DARS DIVISION FOR BLIND SERVICES CRISS COLE REHABILITATION CENTER 4800 N. LAMAR BLVD AUSTIN, TX 78756 PH: 512-377-0471 -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:19 AM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: Quirky things (was Re: Other Odd Symbols) In the main, Steve, as Kathy has pointed out, print users can be a sloppy bunch at best, and downright careless at worst. I used to blame a lot of this kind of thing on, believe it or not, war-time paper saving efforts, especially here in the U.K. We were taught by our teachers NEVER to put a blank line between paragraphs, and always indent paragraphs. One used far more abbreviations (different from acronyms) to save space. So for example, we always wrote "paras" as opposed to "paragraphs". Then the Word processor came along - but that another whole story. Then we have the fancy pants brigade where a TV program called "NUMBERS" appears as "NUMB3ERS" (Yes that is a number 3 in the middle of the word.) The pop group "ABBA" where the first letter B faces backwards. George. -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Dresser Sent: 07 November 2008 02:21 To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Quirky things (was Re: Other Odd Symbols) Kathy, One quirky thing that frustrates me is a list of numbers which should appear as "124, 251, 325" but which appears in the document as "124,251,325". Someone once told me that this kind of error happens because it's sometimes difficult to determine the presence of spaces because of the way variable width fonts appear on the screen. Or are people just being careless and sloppy? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Riessen" <kathy.riessen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 20:48 Subject: [duxuser] Re: Other Odd Symbols Another quirky thing I often find is spaces before punctuation such as question marks - the document producer thinks it looks cute!!!! * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * * * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *