Susan, Thanks for the perspective. That explains some of what I was doing wrong. It's a lot to chew on, and thanks for helping me get started with Nemeth. I had a quick look at that document and I'll braille it out. Even though it's a lot of individual codes, it helps me understand what's happening. Much appreciated. Jean _____ From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Susan Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 9:18 PM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Re: Nemeth styles Jean, The styles on the Nemeth toolbar are used in conjunction with the other toolbars/styles. However, make sure you use the directions and exercise styles on the Nemeth toolbar, otherwise you won't get the correct formatting. Also, make sure you use the page numbering options on the Nemeth toolbar so you get literary page numbers. Use Alt-Shift-Enter when print pages start with a new paragraph. Use Alt-Ctrl-Shift-M when the print page break is mid-paragraph. You'll want to use "Technical context" to mark the beginning of your Nemeth. This will be at the top of the document, unless you have a title page, in which case you'll insert the code after the title page. You'll get the correct exercise numbers when this code is used. Here is DBT's description of the [tcs] code. [tcs] -- Translation code, used to mark the start of "technical context", that is material that is to be translated according to special code rules when such rules are applicable to all the text surrounding technical notation, not just the notation itself. This is intended primarily for the Nemeth Braille Code for Mathematics and Science Notation, whose rules have that characteristic. In a work to be translated according to Nemeth Code, the [tcs] ... [tce] codes normally surround practically the whole text, excluding only the title page at the beginning and the numbers associated with print page breaks, which are done according to "literary" conventions. Here is the code description for "technical notation." [ts] -- Translation code, used to mark the start of "technical notation", that is material that is definitely technical in nature, such as mathematics; not words in English or some other natural language. Many braille codes, including Nemeth code, call for such material to be brailled differently than would be the case if the same text were interpreted as a word or other "literary" material, such as an abbreviation. It is not generally necessary to mark material that from the outset is clearly technical, such as numbers, though it does no harm to do so. However, it is advisable to mark any technical notation commencing with letters. E.g. The base of triangle [ts]RST[te] is [ts]x+1[te] inches long marks RST and x+1 as technical expressions. See also [tcs]. All the BANA style descriptions are under the Help -Working with Word, Word Template. A file somewhat buried in the Help may help provide some perspective. Many of the codes referenced are incorporated into the styles. C:\Program Files\Duxbury\Duxbury 10.7\Documentation (English)\dochow.dxp (if you have DBT 10.6 you will be navigating through the Duxbury 10.6 folder) You can also find this file by searching for "Layout: Math Codes" (include the quotes). Susan From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jean Menzies Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2008 8:17 PM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Nemeth styles Can someone please help get me started using the Nemeth styles? I've experimented a bit with the Word Nemeth styles and the styles directly in the English Bana Nemeth template but things aren't working quite as I expect. For example: I've started by selecting Technical Notation, but then my page numbers are of course Nemeth, not literary. In the Word template, what is the difference between Nemeth context and Technical Notation? I can't get my exercise numbers to come out right. Example, 1. comes out as the number sign, lowercase 1, then the decimal dots 4-6. What I want is the punctuation indicater, then a normal period. Or I want a page heading like in literary braille, without having each individual letter capitalized as if it were a math expression. Are the other toolbars in the Word template supposed to be used in conjunction with the Nemeth toolbar? Even if someone does Nemeth from within DBT, please share what some of the styles do. I know what I want, but I'm having trouble choosing the styles to get the results. So, bottom line is I need some descriptions of what some of the Nemeth styles both in DBT itself and in the Word template are doing. I thought I knew, but I haven't got it right yet. I can't find much in DBT help other than referencing using Scientific Notebook, etc. Jean