[duxuser] Re: Need Help With List Style
- From: "Riessen, Kathleen (SA School for Vision Impaired)" <Kathleen.Riessen440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2014 23:32:06 +0000
I would say that your issue with not being able to change the mws file has to
do with administrator rights. Even on my own computer where supposedly I have
administrator rights, I find that I need to copy the mws file into a directory
which is considered "safe", make my changes and then copy the file back into
the templates directory.
I have also found that if I wish to make changes to my DBT template I need to
run it "with administrator rights". To do this right-click your desktop icon
and choose "run as administrator"
Now back to the List Style.
As long as you are using the dbt.mws style (default) which came with DBT then
the List style should automatically map. You shouldn't need to make any changes
to the mws file.
But you may need to ensure that the List style in DBT is correct.
We have ours with the following parameters:
List. (ensure a fullstop at the end of the name, so DBT recognises it as a
paragraph style)
[hi1:3:0:2:2]
[hi]
The parameter [hi1:3:0:2:2] means paragraph begins in cell 1 with runovers cell
3, 0 right margin. The values of 2 set the increment of the left and runover
margins when you move to a level 2 or level 3 List style with the use of the
Alt-right arrow key.
A further suggestion which WILL require some changes to the dbt.mws file.
According to the mws file supplied by DBT, the TOC (table of contents) Word
Style maps to List. We have changed this to map to Contents.
We then have a specific DBT style call "Contents.", which is similar to the
List style but has a 6 cell right margin ensuring that a long paragraph wraps
before reaching the number on the right hand side of the page.
The parameters for our Contents. style in DBT is
[hi1:3:6:2:2]
[hi]
We have found this style also useful for such things as menus where you have a
price on the right hand side.
A menu item in Word can then be entered using the TOC style as
Fried Chicken with rice served with steamed vegetables in season and
gravy[[*fr;p~".*]]6.50
The menu description should then wrap before the right "column" where you want
the price to sit.
I hop this all makes sense.
Kathy Riessen
Coordinator Alternative Print Production
SA School for Vision Impaired
Tel: 08 8277 5255
Email:
Kathleen.Riessen440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Kathleen.Riessen440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of
Diane Scalzi <dscalzi@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, 1 February 2014 07:35
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Need Help With List Style
Hi Kathleen,
I apparently must have created this list paragraph style in Word at some point,
because it appears on my list when I press Shift-Control-S. I tried adding it
to the style map in SWIFT and received the following error message:
DBT Error
Error 75, Path/File access error
If the problem persists, contact your technical support, giving the error
number,
error description, and the steps taken to replicate this error.
OK Cancel
Then I read the document in help about editing .mws files and tried to do it,
but got an access denied error when I tried to save the dbt.mws file after I
had made my changes.
I am running DBT 11.1 SR 2 on a computer running Windows 7 64 bit.
Thank you for jogging my memory about .mws files. I do recall learning how to
edit the files when I took the DBT course through the Caroll Center and that
the file was in the templates folder, but didn't remember the name of the file
I needed to edit.
Looks like I will be able to meet my needs if only I can clear up the apparent
security issues. All additional help appreciated. Thanks.
Diane
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Riessen, Kathleen (SA School for Vision Impaired)
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 4:08 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Need Help With List Style
Diane,
In Word are you actually applying a List Style, or simply formatting a
paragraph to look like a list?
When importing a file, DBT does not apply a formatting style according to how
it "looks" in Word, but according to the Style name which has been applied to a
paragraph. The default name is Normal which DBT will automatically convert to
Para.
The List style is one of those styles which does not appear in the Word style
list by default, you need to create it.
Go to the Home Ribbon and open the style pane by clicking on the small arrow in
the bottom right corner of the styles tab. (Alt-Ctrl-Shift-S)
Click on the "New Style" button, bottom left and create a style called "List"
with Paragraph as the Style Type. You can use the Format button to define the
formatting you wish this style to have.
Ensure that the box "New Documents based on this template" is ticked so that
your template is updated and the style is available in all documents. If you
wish, you can also assign a shortcut key to a style as well. We use Alt-L, L to
apply the List style to a paragraph.
By applying this List style to a paragraph in Word, it should then import into
DBT applying the List style as defined in your DBT template.
Additionally if you are wanting indented List entries then a List 2, List 3,
List 4 style in Word will import into DBT as List [level 2], List [level 3],
List [level 4] respectively.
I hope this helps
Kathy
Kathy Riessen
Coordinator Alternative Print Production
SA School for Vision Impaired
Tel: 08 8277 5255
Email:
Kathleen.Riessen440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Kathleen.Riessen440@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
<duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on behalf
of Diane Scalzi <dscalzi@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dscalzi@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Friday, 31 January 2014 07:10
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Need Help With List Style
Hi Krystin,
Thanks for the suggestion. Are there any ideas on the best way to produce a
restaurant menu in large print that will import easily to DBT? Thanks.
Diane
From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kristyn Leigh
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 3:21 PM
To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [duxuser] Re: Need Help With List Style
You can import bulleted lists or numbered lists that way. The easiest solution
for a paragraph list is to use the list style in Duxbury.
Kristyn
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On Jan 29, 2014, at 11:11 PM, "Diane Scalzi"
<dscalzi@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dscalzi@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
I received no response from the list on my last email, so I hope you can help
me with this one. I am working on a restaurant menu in which I am using the
list paragraph style to show the various items. I had this apparently strange
idea that when I imported the document to DBT that the lists would convert to
the list style. I thought I had prepared documents this way in the past, but I
must be wrong because it isn't working. Any ideas? Thanks.
Diane
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