Hope this helps-it is from the pokadot site. b KEYBOARDS FOR BRAILLE Only certain keyboards will work for ANY six-key input braille computer program. They must be capable of producing the six-dot character yet MANY KEYBOARDS WILL NOT PRODUCE ANY MORE THAN FOUR DOTS WHEN ALL SIX KEYS ARE PRESSED AS NEEDED FOR BRAILLE. Keyboards that will store six keys at once are said to have "six-key rollover". The fact that many manufacturers have dropped this feature in recent years is producing a real problem for braillists. Do not confuse this problem with the spreading of dots for a single braille character to more than one cell. SPREADING OF DOTS IS NOT DUE TO THE KEYBOARD. It is due to misadjustment of timing within the braille computer program. For most programs this can be readjusted by the braillist. For Pokadot see section A6 of PD-INTRO.DOC. Here is the information that I have been able to accumulate with help from users as of 4-3-2002 on suppliers of current computers and/or keyboards with six-key rollover. --------------------------KEYBOARD MODEL NUMBERS --------------------------WITH SIX-KEY ROLLOVER SOLD WITH DESKTOP COMPUTERS Compaq--------------------SK2800C, SK2800M, KB-9965, SDM4540UL Hewlett-Packard-----------SK2506, SK2560 e-Machines----------------SK9908 SOLD SEPARATELY Belkin Classic Keyboard---KB-6868 (sold by Office Depot) Belkin ErgoBoard----------F8E817-PS/2 (sold by Office Depot) Compaq--------------------KB-9965 (sold by Radio Shack) IBM-----------------------KB-8923, KB-9910 (sold by CompUSA) Quiet Key-----------------SK-8000 (sold by Dell) DON'T KNOW WHETHER STILL SOLD PC Accessories------------KB-7903 Mitsumi-------------------KFK-EA4XA Micro Innovations---------KB-2961 Zeos----------------------KB-6251/2 NEC-----------------------KB-6923 Toshiba-------------------KB-2971 The model number of the keyboard can be found on its underside except for laptops. If any reader has found other currently sold national brand computers or separate keyboards with six-key rollover I would appreciate getting notification of it at the email address below and will include it in later versions of this file. The real problem is that there is no guarantee that even the above keyboard models will continue to be available on the open market. Before you replace your keyboard make sure that your problem is inability to make six dots at all and not misadjusted timing by testing your current keyboard as follows. In a Windows computer click Start then Run. In the space provided to type a file name press the six keys SDFJKL SIMULTANEOUSLY at least seven times. Then press Backspace to clear the box and then press the six keys once more. All six letters must show but the order does not matter. If you do not have Windows you can run the same test at the DOS command prompt. If you cannot get all to show then you will not be able to braille multi-dot characters reliably with that keyboard in ANY six-key input braille program. If you must replace your keyboard make sure that you get one with a compatible connector. The most popular one at present is a PS/2 connector. However, the trend is to go to a USB connector. USB types usually have a U in the model number. Some keyboards with USB connectors will work but it is essential that you test these for six-key input as described above before buying a computer with a USB keyboard because it will be very difficult to find a replacement USB keyboard with six-key rollover. Radio Shack sells an adapter for about $10 (part 26-241) that will permit a keyboard with a PS/2 connector to plug into the computer's USB port. It will work for regular one-key-at-a-time input but it will NOT work reliably for six-key input, so do not count on that as a solution. If you are planning to buy a new computer for braille you should look at those on the above list but still test the keyboard as above for any computer. Another important thing to do is to save your old keyboard if it has six-key rollover to use with any new computer that does not come with a six-key rollover keyboard. If your old keyboard has the large AT style connector and the new computer has a small PS2 connector you can buy an AT/PS2 adapter at your local computer store. Len Dozier Email: lend@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Tel: 360-574-6167 (After 9 AM Pacific Time USA) My dear teacher friend needs a little help. She was moved to another VI classroom this summer, and her keyboard quit working. Can anybody advise or recommend to us current keyboards that support Duxbury 6 key entry. THanks so much * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *