[duxuser] Re: Braille table with a THIEL BETAX printer
- From: David Holladay <david@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 12:08:25 -0600
I do not know if you have the same software that I am familiar with, but
here are the parameters that I have used:
Start of the set-up program:
Dialog in deutcher sprache?
Outprint in German language? No
Display parameters? No
Select Fixed Parameters? No
Change Character Set? Yes
Character Set German? No
Character system US-ASCII? Yes
Change format of printing? Yes
6-dot presentation? Yes
Continuous Print? No
Page length 13 inches? No
Page length 12 inches? No
Page length 11 inches? Yes
Change line spacing? No
26 lines per page is possible. Change number? No
Number of characters per line: 42 Change number? No
Word Wrap? No
Indent following line overflow? No
Paperfeed at end of page? Yes
Change computer connection? Yes
Allow escape sequences? No
Change baudrate? Yes
9600 baud? Yes
Change data format? Yes
Parity on? No
Number of stopbits 1? Yes
Change Synchronization? Yes
Synchronization Xon/Xoff No
Synchronization DTR? Yes
Synchronization DTR-positive? Yes
Half-Duplex? Yes
Change mode of read key? No
Selftest? No
The Thiel displays all the selected parameters and asks Save Parameters?
Answer Yes.
This is for serial, 9600 baud, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, and no parity.
I hope this is helpful.
At 05:46 PM 3/25/2003 +0100, you wrote:
>Hello,
>I'am Pascale from Paris, sorry if my English is not quite good...
>We have a problem with a THIEL BETAX printer and DBTWIN 10.4 version: the
>Braille table is quite correct, except that the printer adds a Braille dot 4
>before each lower Braille sign; (it looks like a "add automatic number
>prefix" or something like that).
>I don't have the documentation of that printer (it was here a long time
>before me...)
>I imagine that there is a way to adjust the table from the included control
>panel, but I don't know it.
>Can someone help me?
>Thank you,
>Bet regards,
>Pascale ISEL.
>
>----- Message d'origine -----
>De : "David P. Rosenfeld" <drosenfe@xxxxxxxxxx>
>À : <george@xxxxxxxxxx>; <duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Envoyé : mardi 25 mars 2003 17:29
>Objet : [duxuser] Re: french and german in the same document
>
>
>> Hello, George and list.
>>
>> The French style is in grade 1, and will give you the correct French
>accents, but the punctuation, i.e., capital sign isn't the French capital.
>For that, you need to use the French translation table. I generally use the
>French uncontracted table for a document that is predominantly in French,
>and the French style for a short quotation of French imbedded in an English
>document. For contracted French, you would need to use the French
>contracted table. This means that you would need to translate the French
>and German separately, since, as far as I know, there isn't any way of
>changing tables in mid document and making one pass through the translator.
>>
>>
>>
>> David R.
>>
>>
>> >>> george@xxxxxxxxxx 03/25/03 10:42am >>>
>> Hi Terri,
>>
>> In Europe, and I am sure most of the world, manufacturers
>> often produce manuals in different languages. In some cases,
>> it's like having two or more books stuck together one after
>> the other, and in other cases they might show instructions
>> is stages, and at each stage, the instruction might be in 2
>> or more languages. For example:-
>>
>> 1:
>>
>> GB Open
>> F Ouvre
>>
>> 2:
>>
>> GB Close
>> F Fermez
>>
>> Sometimes the letter is in brackets, sometimes not, but the
>> obvious exercise is to show whuch is which language, and
>> yes, a letter sign would be required.
>>
>> As regards French Grade 2, I'm hoping someone at Duxbury, or
>> even from France, will help answer this one. I do not
>> believe the French Style is Grade 2.
>>
>> George.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Teri
>> McElroy
>> Sent: 25 March 2003 07:10
>> To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> Hi George
>> Thanks for your suggestions. I've never come across this
>> convention before. do I just put the letter standing alone
>> before the beginning of the label text or does it go on a
>> line above the label text?
>> Presumably single letters would need a lettersign. Is there
>> a list somewhere of the 1 or two letter signs for different
>> languages? Is this convention specivic to braille or does
>> it occur in print as well?
>> I have been instructed that the French labels have to be in
>> contracted braille. So, my question still remains. Does
>> the french style via f8 produce contracted braille? I need
>> to have the two languages French and German appear on the
>> same label and I need to work out the best way to do this.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "George Bell" <
>> george@xxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> To: <
>> duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >
>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:21 PM
>> Subject: [duxuser] Re: french and german in the same
>> document Hi Terri, May I suggest you use the one/two letter
>> language convention to indicate each language. In this case
>> "F" for French and "D" for German. You'll see this used in
>> many multiple language instruction sheets.
>> I suggest you also try to stay with Grade 1.
>> I would strongly advise you to check what the braille should
>> be with a local dealer. These styles do not always produce
>> grade 1 as used locally. For example you'd get accent sign
>> u as opposed to a proper u umlaut. The last thing you want
>> is to be a laughing stock by having incorrect braille on a
>> braille product.
>> George W F Bell
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
>> duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Teri
>> McElroy
>> Sent: 24 March 2003 01:35
>> To: dbt
>> Hi again everyone
>> More on foreign languages again.
>> This time, I need to try and produce a label to go on the
>> outside of a cd case with both French and German titles on
>> it. When I have needed to do braille translations in the
>> past, I've used the French or German translation tables
>> under document menu.
>> If I use the French and German styles which I can access
>> with f8, will these produce contracted french or
>> uncontracted? Also, should I leave the blank line between
>> the two translations, or should I take it out?
>> I'd be interested in people's thoughts because the label
>> needs to be easily read by French or German braille readers
>> which ever is appropriate.
>> In the German label I have put a hard return after the
>> second word so that the label will fit on the cd case. Is
>> this ok or would the hard return be better after the first
>> word.
>> My labels are as follows:
>> [es~french]VarioNote CD-ROM
>> Logiciels PC[ee~french]
>> [es~german]BrailleNote BT
>> Anleitung für
>> Anfänger[ee~german]
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Teri McElroy
>> Make the most of today
>> because tomorrow never comes.
>> E-mail:
>> teri@xxxxxxxxxx
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