Good topic, and one apparently we have all had to deal with. Pulling from the pole is sometimes hard to analyse, because everything is connected, and where do you start? Sometimes it can be one horse afraid the other wants to bite it. Or it can be the other horse not pulling at the pole end to its side, which means all the weight on the pole falls to the one who is pulling away. Certainly in all of this it needs to be considered that the close-to-pole horse may be laying back and the other horse is eager. In this case he will be outside shoulder forward, trying to go as far forward in the hitch as he can. In every case, everything is thrown off, and it is a problem you have to deal with. The easiest thing, as has been advised, is to switch sides. Shuffle the cards, try something new! See what happens. I guess what I find the most fundemental problem in a pair is to have a laying back horse. When you have two horses comfortably on the bit and traces firm, then you have something to work with. Other than that, it is always a struggle. Rachel - With your green horse appearing (or actually) lazy, be sure he isn't laying back because he doesn't want the contact with the bit. You might try adjusting traces and lines to bring the experienced horse back towards the carriage, and give the other some more room, to reduce his contact with the bit when he is pulling. Camptown Dave _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.shtml `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````