> FWIW, I bought two single harnesses from Claudette Robinson of Country Carriages and drive them as pair so I will share the differences I see. #1 is the breastcollars (if that is what you use single). The pair would have a ring on the breast collar to attach the pole strap. Yes they do. > Now if I were sure of the horses, I would purchase one of those huge caribeaner-type snaps that would go around the breastcollar I have and hook my pole straps temporarily to that. That's what I was considering ;) -- thanks! My 54 yr old riding/driving buddy is a boat fanatic (been the yacht club commodore), so he's familiar with all of the various connecting gadgets and their load capacities. > To keep the breastcollar comfortable for the horse, I would then put on a pad (if you don't customarily use one anyway). Yes, in big fluffy bright red to match the wheel hubs ;) ... > The traces are the same but you run them through the tugs/shaft hangers (which ever you call it) to support them on the way to the singletrees. I would also add a small strap to the breeching ring to act as a trace hanger there as well. Got it. > Now of the breeching. I got two straps that fasten to the breeching rings but are longer than the breeching straps that would normally wrap your shafts. These new straps are long enough to reach the buckles of the breastcollar and buckle in to the same buckle as (and under) the traces. Be sure you have a false martingale on the breastcollars so that when the horses stop, the pole doesn't just pull the breast collars over their heads (but breeching should stop that). Now that is about it as far as the differences. My riding/driving buddy Karl was wondering where we can get false martingales. Any suggestions (reasonable price, reasonable quality)? Same for pair reins -- I notice they have adjustments part way down, unlike the single reins I have .... my single reins are 15 ft * 2, or 30 ft total. > I bought new breastcollars that are wider and heavier than the single ones but if you have good quality single ones and they fit well, you could make some arrangement like I suggested. PLEASE note, I haven't driven pair much and are just starting out again after a long dry spell so these are only observations from my own limited experience and a summary of some professional advice I recieved. You have to know your horses and if you believe this to be safe. Everything you have stated is very similar to what others have said in bits and pieces -- you've been the first really complete reply, that made complete sense! I bought a couple books recommended, but they didn't help me in this department. I do now know, however, that I need to compensate my footman well :). > There was an article on this list about 6-9 months ago about how to make a single harness work for pair so you should look that up. If you can't find it, let me know because I think I saved it somewhere. If you can find it, that would be wonderful! I've been off this list a long time, and just got back on :) .... millonsthanksinadvance! _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````