Sterling's suggestion of a wedge is a very good one. We also use a high wedge for the tandem. Our first tandem was smaller horses, but still needed the wedge height for seeing the leader. We have had to add a foot rail on the cart, to keep seating on the wedge secure. We did more CDE than showing. Just a footrail is something you might need also to hook your shoe under, keep feet solid. Drove a roadcart, very high wheels, to the first tandem. When we changed from 14.2h horses to 17h horses, cart was modified to fit. Longer shafts, wider cross bar. Still used the wedge and footrail, were really handy in that cart driving a single tall horse. Have to be high to see ahead. I HATE seeing only a rump view in front, hard to drive! We drive the 17h horses in a 4-wheel vehicle as a tandem. Husband likes the vehicle ride better, hates carts now, thinks the 4-wheels are easier on the wheeler in CDE work. Still on a wedge, has higher sides to keep driver in place. Carriage was made for husband, so leg length is correct even with wedge. You might like having two different height wedges. Use shorter one for single. Husband uses a wedge seat on everything he drives. Says the wedge is an aid in seat position, gives firm leg bracing, so all he has to move is his upper body to shorten and lengthen reins. Our wedges are of different heights, depends on vehicle being used. Wedge seat prevents a chair-seat body position of sharp body angles. Tandems are so fun because everything happens so fast, wedge, good body position helps the driver be correct without thinking about it. Always have a groom/helper with driving a tandem, things can go wrong equally fast. Have a long lashed whip and practice with it a bunch, so you can lay lash where you want it. Touch the leader for bend, snap the rotten barking dog coming your way so he quits. The whip is your aid, you need the skills to make whip useful. Keep us posted on how things are going. Kathy Robertson > Hi Debra, > I have been showing critters ranging from 14.1 > to 16.3 in the same > Country Carriages Road Cart with no derogatory > comments. I have also been > using the same vehicle for my tandem, the shaft > horse being the > aforementioned 16.3 hh (well ok, 16.2 1/2) > warmblood. I think you should > have no problem fitting something to both sizes you > are contemplating. Not > fancy, not totally correct, but I have been in the > ribbons both in pleasure > and CDE and I do use a wedge with it. I have > pictures if any one wants to > see it. Of course, my favorite tandem vehicle is > the B-i-H Skeleton Gig. > Nose bleeder, but oh so cool. > Sterling > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.shtml `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````