In a message dated 7/28/2006 10:03:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Shadbelly4@xxxxxxx writes: I always find that when we stop and talk to neighbors, other riders or drivers,ect the horses stand much better. If we just stop and don't talk the horses fidget. I could not agree more, especially in the early training phase. I believe that it is the voices. The horses seem to understand there is a purpose to the standing. And perhaps the whip is more relaxed and fidgets less with the reins. Douglas Kemmerer Middleburg, VA 20118 _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/index.php?pg=2 `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````