Wow, Hardy! You are a wealth of information. I have 2 small minis (31") and they just pull a cart (easy entry) with the traditional pole. But I've noticed that they are uncomforatble with the weight of the pole hanging on their necks. We just do parades and demos - nothing competative - but if we did, I can see I need to do more research before buying a carriage. Thanks again for taking the time to explain the differences in the poles. - carol _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.shtml `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````