Usually much easier to get out of the back of a carriage, than out of the front, over a wheel. Also, if carriage stops suddenly, groom will usually hit the front seat back, not fall onto the floor or over the dashboard, like driver, so can give better aid with the horses. Tradition is still influential, grooms were hired help, didn't sit in the same seat with the employer. Who rides up front with the limo driver? Tandems are the exception, because they are usually driven to a two wheel cart. Again tradition, smaller carriage on single horse, often not as much seat room, puts both driver and groom on the same forward ,seat. The rule of asking for an exception, allowing groom to sit beside you, sounds nice. However as a competitor, you MUST be prepared for a refusal from the ground jury. You know that your outfit is not the correct one, going in to compete. What will you do if they say no? Every person perceives things differently and for some reason they may feel compelled to not allow it. We have had it happen to us, and you have to play with what you have, or go home. Folks will often offer equipment, but I don't think changing carriages at a CDE is good, if you have not practiced with it. No one might have something suitable. Good preparation is NOT DEPENDING on chance. You are ready, correctly, ahead of time. > really - the carriage just seems to balance/ride better with my husband/navigator on the back... In pratice , he is always on the back - how > much good an a groom do if they cant get to the > horses qickly? For multiples, a pair and tandem require one groom. I would presume a randem would require extra grooms, would depend on how many horses are out front, 3-4-5? Unicorns would require two grooms and teams of four require two grooms. I would presume six would require three grooms to be safe. A groom to handle each pair of a hitch. Unicorn, second groom handles leader. Technically, the groom should have to do nothing, just stand there ornamentally. However at a competition, Pleasure or CDE, horses might need a hand to keep them standing straight, heads up, no rubbing. Distractions of being away from home, bored with standing for long times. Actually for a four, you need a third ground person to run around to polish horses and everyone up as they sit on the carriage! You can't have them getting themselves dirty before judging!! > Just out of interest , when you compete > multiples, the number of grooms > required changes - do unicorns require 2 grooms, and > 4 require 3? Kathy Robertson __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````