I would like to side with the folks who have said NOT to jump carriage animals, or if possible, do not let your driving horses jump the little ditches. It can be hard on the animals when the weight hits the harness. Can be hard on the vehicle as it is jerked and slams into ditch side or bottom, momentarily stopping the whole show, then jerking forward. This is how accidents happen. The ponies look like they just don't wish to get their feet damp. Ditch is pretty open. Not likely to be jerked to a halt by angles of dirt banks. Other scenarios are not as forgiving. We drove a pair thru a shallow, but sharp sided ditch. We knew from marathon walk ahead of time, ditch was there, shallow, dry. Big horses decided together, do short hop/jump over. Unplanned!! The front wheels did not roll thru ditch smoothly as planned. They slammed into ditch side and halted. Threw me, standing behind driver, onto passenger seatback. Threw driver forward, as I let go of safety strap. Just like hitting a wall in the car! Horses took out the slack in traces, and shot forward, throwing driver back into seat. I had to stand up by myself. Nylon harness took the strain, but broke the spring in the marathon pole. Horses carried pole's weight the rest of the Marathon. I am sure if we had a wooden vehicle, it would have broken the front wheels and maybe the front of vehicle or kingpin. Vehicles are meant to roll thru things, not bang into them, THEN go forward. If horses had just kept trotting, there would have been no problem, wheels would have just climbed the bank, not stopped. All steady forward motion. Horses sure didn't plan on stopping and didn't. We now look at our driving jumps as "driver error". We always slow now for those kind of ditches, to maintain control of horses. Allows driver to keep vehicle even, catching both parts of ditch/stream edges with both front wheels at the same time. Not tippy. Slower approach usually doesn't allow them to extend for big stride, or jump unexpectedly. Thus, we do steady forward, with horses and vehicle. No surprises. Our big horses have a lot of power. The stopping and starting of a ditch jump is very dangerous because you have lost control, and often body (horses and people) position. Can't hold on, stay in seat and drive. Horses get confused without a driver and bad things can happen fast. What if only one wheel stops? Pair gets turned? Vehicles usually flip when turning, going over bumps or uphill, at any speed. If wheel catches, horses don't stop. Bad scene. It is a unique picture, because drivers don't want jumping carriage horses. I feel like Cassandra, the voice of doom and gloom here! Sorry to be such a downer. I REALLY don't want to hear about any accidents! Keith and Linda, ponies look very together in pictures. Nice work. Kathy Robertson __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````