il: I do that but one of my questions is do you insert a point in delay just before the phrase you want to hear delay on and how do you generally do that in terms of placement? Thanks. John ----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 7:40 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: using delay on a vocal track Insert the delay on a bus then, insert a send on a track and control it from there. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: John Fioravanti To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:24 PM Subject: [ddots-l] using delay on a vocal track Hi: I would like some feedback in using delay on a vocal track for the final mix. I'd like to use it sparingly but with taste. (1) are there any articles available for ideas on this? (2) How do you use delay on a vocal track and where do you insert it to get the ultimate use from it, in automation recording? It's difficult to move the controlls quickly enough. (3) when I try to use an effect in the process menu by selecting a portion of the track,the delay seems to almost cut off a portion of the vocal, it's not smooth sounding. Any thoughts? John Fioravanti