Yeah, but isn't there a g clef with an 8 below it used for guitar and tenor parts? I haven't needed this lately, so I've forgotten what Sibelius offers. js -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gordon Kent Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:02 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Working it out Greg: Tenor parts are usually read down an octave in treble clef, or in the same octave in bass cleff. You would never use tenor clef. That is rarely used for anything these days, occasionally for cello and trombone. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Brayton <mailto:greg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:24 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Working it out Well once I just printed out the choir music, took out the piano and flute, it doesn't take so much, only about four pages. I think this might work for our purposes. Now I guess it automatically places the tenor voice on the treble cleff? But when I changed it to, tenor clef, and even tried bass clef, Sally said the notes obscured some of the lyrics, and went off the staff. Huh. So for now I have it back in the treble cleff, and the pitches are correct anyway. Anybody have any thoughts on this tenor problem?