hi Sean I did run the windows update, and everything is currently up to date. Funny thing is though late this morning when I went to turn the Hp, odly enough it went to hotmail site, and I was able to et the emails, but when I went later on this after noon I got the same message again. I'm wondering if this may have to do with the fact that my del has a gigga eithernet card pluged in the router, while the HP has only a 10mbps eithernet card. I am wondering if the newer card which is on the del system is playing conflicts with my 10MBPS card which ic on the HP----- Original Message ----- From: Sean A. Cummins To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 3:23 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: off topic MSN Dear Mike, You might need to run your Windows updates. There have been some new updates lately. Sean