By virtue of the way in which I wrote the post, I thought that it might be treated with the uncertainty in which it was written? I dunno, gotta watch every utterance 'round here... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:38 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar > Well, I guess the reason that CT isn't up to speed with Cakewalk must be > something to do with the Sonar technicians not giving out any info to the > Cake Talking creators, as they complete their product? > > I dunno, but it would be great if they worked more closely? > > Not true. Mike, Gordon Kent, who works for Dancing Dots, is a Sonar beta > tester. Also, David Pinto, the CT developer also beta tests Sonar too. > This statement does therefore, not apply. > > Regards, Phil Muir > P J Muir Productions > Music And Audio Production > URL: > www.philmuir.com/ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 1:16 PM > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar > > >> Well, I guess the reason that CT ain't up to speed with Cakewalk must be >> something to do with the Sonar technicians not giving out any info to the >> Cake Talking creators, as they complete their product? >> >> I dunno, but it would be great if they worked more closely? >> >> Only a guess, nay a pipe dream... >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "James Malone" <malone_j@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:32 PM >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar >> >> >>> Hi all, >>> In my opinion, both J Sonar, and Ct are good. However, if you don't have >>> hundreds of dollars to spend, and you want to get up and running with >>> Sonar, >>> J Sonar is the way to go. >>> Personally, Sonar 6 has been out since last summer, and it seems that >>> Cake >>> talking can't keep up with each cycle before a new version of Sonar is >>> release. >>> I love using Ct, but wonder if my wallet can stand a double bang with Ct >>> and >>> Sonar six months after Sonar is released. >>> Lets do the math, >>> $179 for the upgrade of Sonar producer, when the public version of >>> Cake >>> Talking is released in 6 to 8 months for the upgrade is $149, >>> With a grand total of Roughly $330. >>> This doesn't include tax and shipping. On the other hand, for those who >>> like >>> Ct but can't wait can use J Sonar in the meantime. >>> James >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >>> On >>> Behalf Of Mike Christer >>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 11:13 AM >>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar >>> >>> I reckon it's gotta be a user opinion! >>> I mean, they both have their pro's and cons! >>> >>> Being a relative novice to making music with PC's the CT option seemed >>> the >>> easier and more obvious choice, especially as they come with a thorough >>> set >>> of tutorials/manuals? >>> >>> And, the guys over at Dancing Dots, are very friendly and helpful, not >>> to >>> say the guys who compose J.Sonar aren't, but it just seemed the most >>> apparent thing for me to do at the time! >>> Not to mention, that I didn't know of the existence of any alternative, >>> when >>> I first got introduced to Sonar! >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Lex Gillette" <trakstar84@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 7:00 PM >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar >>> >>> >>>> So in all honesty, which scripts are the best, if I can say "best"... >>>> I guess I need to say, which scripts are easier to function and easier >>>> to understand, or is it a user opinion? >>>> >>>> >>>>>From: "Mike Christer" <m-christer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>Reply-To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar >>>>>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 18:55:04 -0000 >>>>> >>>>>Hey Lex! >>>>> >>>>>Although I'm a CT user myself, I would advise you to take a good look >>>>>at the free J.Sonar scripts. >>>>>Personally, I don't know much about them, but a lot of guys on this >>>>>list and the MidiMag list swear by them... >>>>> >>>>>I reckon it's worth checking them out, they work in a totally >>>>>different way to CT, actually preserving the original Sonar hot keys, >>>>>besides, you got nothing to lose but a little time? >>>>> >>>>>Regards >>>>> >>>>>Mike >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Sandy Licht" <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:25 PM >>>>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > Yes. They do. David Pento did a great job with the tutorials. >>>>> > >>>>> > At 03:45 PM 1/12/2007, Lex Gillette wrote: >>>>> >>yes, I do plan on getting the Caketalking scripts; from reading, it >>>>>seems >>>>> >>as though these scripts are very helpful in working with Sonar. >>>>> >>The tutorials that accompany Caketalking explain everything from >>>>> >>front to back? >>>>> >> >>>>> >>>From: Sandy Licht <slicht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >>>Reply-To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar >>>>> >>>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 15:26:28 -0600 >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>If you are going to use the Caketalking scripts, you will need >>>>> >>>Sonar 5. >>>>> >>>The version of Sonar you buy doesn't depend on your knowledge, so >>>>>version >>>>> >>>5 would be as good as any. I highly recommend the Caketalking >>>>> >>>scripts, as they come with extensive tutorial documentation. >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>At 03:09 PM 1/12/2007, Lex Gillette wrote: >>>>> >>>>Hey Guys >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>I'm the beginner of the group unfortunately. I want to purchase >>>>> >>>>sonar and I'm relatively new to all of this; I have recorded and >>>>> >>>>things a >>>>>lot >>>>> >>>>and want to purchase sonar so that I can record and produce >>>>>arangements >>>>> >>>>for myself without 100 percent sighted assistance. >>>>> >>>>What version of Sonar would be best for my needs and knowledge of >>>>> >>>>recording? It doesn't seem sensible for me to start off with >>>>> >>>>Sonar version 6 but if it's recommended then I could look into it. >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>Thanks for your patience with me >>>>> >>>>Lex >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>Your Hotmail address already works to sign into Windows Live >>>>>Messenger! >>>>> >>>>Get it now >>>>> >>>>http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href >>>>> >>>>=http://get.live.com/messenger/overview >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>>> >>>>** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>> >>>>** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>> >>>>** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>** and in the Subject line type >>>>> >>>>** unsubscribe >>>>> >>>>** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>>> >>>>** immediately-following link:- >>>>> >>>>** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>>> >>>>** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >>>>> >>>>the >>>>> >>>>Subject:- faq >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>-- >>>>> >>>>No virus found in this incoming message. >>>>> >>>>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>>> >>>>Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.9/623 - Release Date: >>>>> >>>>1/11/2007 >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>Sandy Licht >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>>Jeremiah 29:11 - 14 A . >>>>> >>>11 For I know the plans I have for you," says the Lord. 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