Just what I expected, though I hoped otherwise; crossover platforms like code
weaver’s are usually full of custom UI hacks and libraries which don’t comply
with the OS standard ones at all.
Logic and PT it is!
Regards, DJX
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On ;
Behalf Of Mike Ciarciello
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 4:23 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: SONAR Mac Prototype
Good afternoon every one on list.
I just took the plunge in to downloading Sonar for the Mac, and in short, while
theinstallation is accessible, the rest of the software which is the main
interface window is a complete flop.
We have absolute no access at all, and when I went to even open a file, it was
inaccessible, and when trying to navigate through any dialogue box, I got
VoiceOver announcing the window, and nothing else but beeps lol.
So I guess for now the main options for the Mac side are still Protools, and
Logic Pro which continue to grow in accessibility.
If by some mystical I get some sited assistance, I'll try to see if I can't
make this work, but I seriously don't think Sonar will work on the Mac at all.
Sorry to be the berror of bad news, however as they say "some one has to do it."
Lets all be safe, and enjoy the creation of music.
Cheers.
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 19, 2017, at 1:21 PM, DJX
<megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Mike, did you get to try it? I unfortunately don’t think they’ll actually go
through with it on the mac, roomours say they don’t want to compete with PT and
Logic, especially since as they claim, they still hold a great part of the
pc/windows market. Check out the text they put forth, I’ve pasted a copy below.
The last line they write about the future of sonar foreshadows another roomour
popular in the circle of daw talk, and that is cloud based/app editions, so
that you could use it across devices. It would make sense since portable
devices such as tablets and phones are more popular than desktops and far mmore
reaching audience than the mac.
Text is below for anyone interested in reading it:
THE SONAR MAC PROTOTYPE
Several months ago, we promised to deliver a SONAR Mac Alpha. To build it, we
collaborated with a company called CodeWeavers. CodeWeavers has a technology
called CrossOver that is basically a Windows-to-Mac translator, allowing native
Windows applications to run on a Mac.
Together, Cakewalk and CodeWeavers used CrossOver to enable a native Windows
version of SONAR Home Studio to run on a Mac. We’ve packaged this product for
release as a SONAR Mac Prototype, available now as a free download to all who
are interested.
Since our initial announcement of this product, we’ve learned three important
lessons.
First, building this SONAR Mac Prototype took more effort than we had hoped or
expected. There has been a constant stream of UI/UX details, and performance
tweaks to resolve -- just to deliver this initial prototype.
Second, we should have been more transparent with the Cakewalk community about
this initiative; and set clearer expectations. We have recently made some
organizational changes that we hope will improve our ability to communicate in
a more effective and timely manner.
Third, we realized that trying to bring the full SONAR experience to the Mac
would take away from what we do best - create the world's finest software for
the Windows platform. With Microsoft's renewed commitment to creative
applications for Windows, we've been able to accomplish several important
improvements in the past few months.
In November 2016 we launched SONAR Home Studio, the first DAW to support WASAPI
shared mode using Microsoft’s low latency API, resulting in latencies as low as
3 ms on supported devices (10 msec otherwise).
In January 2016, we appeared on stage at CES with Avid, Microsoft, and Autodesk
for Dell’s announcement of their new Canvas product, highlighting what
musicians will soon be able to accomplish with large-screen touch interfaces
built for their Windows PCs.
In March 2017, we released a SONAR update to become the first Windows DAW to
support Bluetooth MIDI controllers natively, stemming from a close
collaboration with Microsoft.
In fact, Cakewalk has a long history of innovations on the Windows platform,
from being the first DAW to natively support 64-bit Windows, to the first DAW
to support Windows Touch, to a patent-pending plug-in load balancing solution.
Next month marks Cakewalk’s 30th anniversary, a major milestone in our
industry. We’ll be celebrating every month, looking at our past, present and
future, with stories, free content and additional innovations.
We are proud to continue our investment in SONAR as the leading DAW for the
Windows platform. The SONAR Mac Prototype is the end of the line for SONAR on
the Mac.
One more thing… (couldn’t resist the Steve Jobs reference) while we’re not
going to bring the SONAR product line to the Mac, we have begun to explore new
ideas and initiatives that will reach more musicians on more platforms than
ever before, and we’re all very excited about our future!
So, stay tuned...and let's make some noise together!
Now, only if accessibility would be part of that vision, that would be great!
Lol.
Regards,DJX
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Ciarciello
Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 12:38 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: SONAR Mac Prototype
Like was here I'm going to test the copy myself as well you never know they
might open up a surprise can of worms which might lead to something really
great.
They said they're not going to be supporting any future versions however we all
know that companies have a habit of changing what they say it's not written in
stone and sometimes it could lead to something more profitable for them.
Hence why they now have Microsoft office on the Mac and let me tell you it's
not too bad in accessibility there still some more improvement to do but it
doesn't work to badly and it works to do the job
Sent from my iPhone
On Apr 19, 2017, at 11:47 AM, DJX
<megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
For any mac owners who are interested, Cakewalk has finally released the SONAR
prototype for the mac. Notice I didn’t say beta. This is because Cakewalk will
not release a mac version of SONAR, as they rather place their resources on the
Windows/PC version, since that is where they “lead”. They have learned some
things along the way and thus have decided not to continue the SONAR Mac idea.
Anyways, they have made the prototype available as a free download, so if you
want to play with it, grab your copy here:
http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SONAR-Mac-Prototype?mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiTm1WbVpEVXdOamN6TURBdyIsInQiOiJ3eUxDSWdSZXl1Z2tMUURINENFUElTOFk2NkI2dWRUTm0yM3lENnlKTksrMzBMNzlFOWx4cU9GZXBrMGV4eEpyT0U0azVJbUpqeGNSU05rNW9WbjdjWEJqNVJXTGx1d2xHOWo4RUFoM3YxM1lDZGJMNTVBY283R0tkV3FBWHRueSJ9
I’ve no idea how it goes accessibility wise, though if the crossover platform
doesn’t use VoiceOver integration, I fear it won’t ddo much good, but you don’t
lose much but a few minutes by trying it out. When I get those free few minutes
I’ll try it out on my system and report back if anyone else is interested.
Regards, DJX
