[ddots-l] Re: Relationship of audio files to CWP projects in a data recovery situation

  • From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 13:23:18 -0700

Kevin,

More data. I found a 2 Tb Seagate Network Server class drive on Newegg.com

Seagate ST320005SHA10G-RK 2TB BlackArmor NAS 420 Network Storage Server

$599.99

A bit more pricey.

Dave
Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 12:39
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Relationship of audio files to CWP projects in a data 
recovery situation


Dave,
As usual, you reminded me of something in an e-mail I may have
accidentally deleted.  I'll get right on the server class thing.
K.

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Farfar Carlson
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 2:22 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Relationship of audio files to CWP projects in a data
recovery situation


...and as Brian proposes, stick to the server-class drives. Cost a bit more,

but are meant for long life and continuous running.

Dave
Created in the Audio Recording and Mixing Studios, San Jose, California


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Muir" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 12:17
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Relationship of audio files to CWP projects in a data

recovery situation


Still go for Seagate here.  Had a western digital drive fail a while back.




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-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs
Sent: 03 September 2010 18:24
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Relationship of audio files to CWP projects in a data
recovery situation

Bryan,
You won't believe it.  A data recovery service I engaged says that they have
recovered all the data from the busted drive.  It was a mechanical failure.
It will cost big bucks but is covered by my musical instrument insurance,
distinct from my homeowner's iinsurance.  Now, I need your advice on a
quality SATA HD?  Seagate still good? K.

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Bryan Smart
Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2010 1:45 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Relationship of audio files to CWP projects in a data
recovery situation


Kevin, the audio files are just .wav. If they can recover them, you can
import them in to a new project. However, while you'll have the recorded
audio, without the project, it will be up to you to line all of them up in
terms of time. Remember that those recordings are of clips, not tracks. One
track could consist of any number of clips.

I won't nag you about backups, since the need is painfully obvious now, I'm
sure. The thing is that, while there are many ways to backup your computer,
you need to find a way that requires little effort. Backing up the computer
is something that must happen frequently (once every few days, or once a
week at minimum for a business). If backing up the computer is an involved
project with lots of steps and screens, you won't want to do it, and you'll
unconsciously avoid it. Even if you must pay more cash, get something that
is as automatic as possible.

I'm not sure what to suggest on Windows, though. The Mac has a tool called
Time Machine built in to the OS. It's pretty powerful: kind of like a
combination of system restore and a drive imaging tool. You can go back in
to backups to get individual files, but you can also completely restore the
computer from a backup. Since it uses incremental backups, if you want a
specific file, or if you want to restore the whole computer, you can select
any date when you previously ran the backup for the restore. While it's
powerful, though, it is brainless to operate. You only set it up once, when
you first start using it. After that, all you need to do in order to update
your backup is to plug in the external hard drive. The Mac knows that the
drive that has been attached is your backup drive, and automatically starts
updating it with any files that have changed since the last backup.

What I do is to get the backup drive out of the safe on Mondays when I get
up, and attach it to the computer. I go shower, eat breakfast, and, by the
time I get back, it has finished updating the backup. Then, I just
disconnect the drive and put it back in the safe. It is hardly a bother
working this way, so I don't feel tempted to avoid it. I have a second
off-site drive that I keep in case of disaster. About once every month or
so, I take my backup drive to the off-site location (can be the house of a
trusted friend, family, or bank safety deposit box), leave it, and bring the
one that I previously left there back home. Once home, I update its backup,
and put it back in the safe. This way, if a computer dies, I never lose more
than a week of data. Even in case of fire, all of my business records and
projects are protected on the backup drive in the safe, and I lose no more
than a week. If the backup drive itself fails, I can replace it and create
new backups from the functioning computers, and lose nothing. If there is a
horrific disaster that completely destroys my house, I have the off-site
drive, and, with insurance, will be back up with computers in a few days,
using my off-site backup, and losing no more than a month of data.

This is a lot of protection for a little bit of effort. Hopefully, you can
work out something similar for the future.

Bryan

From: Kevin Gibbs <mailto:kevjazz@xxxxxxxxx>

To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:45 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Relationship of audio files to CWP
projects in a data recovery situation


Guys,
    The worst has happened.  I had a hard disk crash and I
may need to have some CWP files recovered whose audio is in the general
audio folder instead of its own per project folder.  If I send the drive to
a pro data recovery service and they're able to recover data selectively, is
there any way to direct them to the audio files that relate to the cwp file
being recovered if they don't have Sonar themselves?
    It doubt it's possible or even practical to cherry-pick things this way.
I just thought I'd ask.

Kevin


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