[ddots-l] How to access the properties page in the synth rack
- From: <ivanlopez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 08:45:26 -0700
Thanks for all your suggestions Steve,
To all,
Does anybody know How to access the properties page from the
synth rack?
I followed the below CT instructions and when I press P from within the
synth rack, it does not take me to synth properties; it takes me to the
view when pressing control + "y" within a midi track.
-------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring__soun_d_pat_ches
> _to_conform_t_o_Sonar’s_t_empo
> From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, September 08, 2011 12:03 pm
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
>
> Hi Ivan,
>
> Does Jaws say anything at all when you press P whilst in the synth rack?
> this could be one of the things that's changed in the later versions of
> Sonar, it maybe control P or shift P. If you have no luck, try changing the
> subject matter on the forum to: "How to access the properties page in the
> synth rack" and repost.
>
> Steve W
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <ivanlopez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 7:04 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Configuring_ soun_d_pat_ches_to_conform_t_o_Sonar’s_t
> empo
>
>
> Hello Steve,
>
> I am working on all your suggestions.
>
> I am also using the below CT lesson on “Using the Synth Rack View.
>
> One of the challenges I am experiencing is accessing the synth
> properties page by pressing “P” within the synth rack view; your
> instructions are correct; it is also stated in the below CT lesson.
>
> The CT manual states: "There are 5 hotkeys that execute important synth
> rack functions." One of these is: "The letter P. Opens the current Soft
> Synth's Properties page."
>
> As of now, it does look not very straight forward and it may cause a
> delay (pun intended).
>
> It looks like one of those things you look at for a while and than the
> epiphany comes after you realize that you have not executed a step
> correctly or something.
>
> Many thanks for your assistance my friend.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Ivan
>
> 33G. Using the Synth Rack View.
> 1. All the soft synths that you insert are in a list in the Synth Rack
> view. You can use the Synth Rack View to insert soft synths into the
> track pane, open their properties pages, delete them from your project,
> and also control there parameters, and even go into automation record
> and adjust there parameters. If you decide to not use a soft synth that
> you have inserted, you should delete the associated MIDI and audio
> tracks, and then delete the soft synth from the Synth Rack view. If you
> don't delete the soft synth from the Synth Rack view, it will continue
> to tax your system with the overhead it takes to load the soft synth
> into SONAR. This can sometimes take up a lot of computing power.
> 2. Sonar's new Synth rack has more capabilities than previous versions
> of SONAR. In addition, it's more accessible than before. As before, each
> soft synth that you've inserted, is displayed in the Synth rack. You can
> down an up arrow through them. You can TAB and SHIFT TAB through the
> Synth Rack Controls for the current synth, and also right and left arrow
> through nobs that have been assigned to control the current soft
> synth’s parameters.
> 3. You open the synth rack view with ALT + 8. You can also open it via
> the View menu. And if you ever lose focus in the Synth Rack View, press
> F6 to reset the focus. To close the synth rack view, press CONTROL + F4.
> Now here's a list of the Synth Rack controls, and what they are for.
> A. The Soft Synth's name. Press ENTER on it, and the soft synth's dialog
> opens.
> B. The Preset box. Press ENTER and a Menu of available presets opens,
> from which you can pick.
> C. The mute button. Press ENTER to mute or unmute the soft synth.
> D. The solo button. Press ENTER to solo or unsolo the soft synth.
> E. The Freeze/Unfreeze Synth button. Press ENTER to toggle.
> E. Read Automation button. By default it's on. Press ENTER to
> disable/enable reading of automation for all assigned controls.
> F. Write Automation button. By default it's off. Press ENTER to
> enable/disable writing of automation for all assigned controls.
> G. The Show Assigned Controls button. This will toggle the display of
> any controls that have been assigned. To assign controls, press the
> Application key on this button. The Assignable Control menu will open.
> You can display the controls that are listed in this menu by pressing
> ENTER on them so that they get checked. Then in the Synth rack, the
> controls you checked will be displayed as knobs. This is great because
> many soft-synth dialogs are inaccessible, except for their preset combo
> boxes.
> H. The knobs. These are all the controls that you've assigned in the
> form of knobs. Here's what you can do with them.
> h1. To adjust them, num lock must be turned on. Then use num plus, and
> num minus.
> h2. If you wish to Write enable automation for just that control, then
> press the application key, and from the context menu, check Write
> Automation Enable. Note that for this to work, you don't hit the write
> enable automation button, because that button write enables all
> controls.
> h3. If you wish to delete that assigned control, press the application
> key, and from the context menu, press ENTER on Delete.
> 4. There are 5 hotkeys that execute important synth rack functions.
> Mid Section Delete. Deletes the current soft synth.
> The letter P. Opens the current Soft Synth's Properties page.
> The letter O. Open the insert Soft Synth options dialog, where you can
> choose options for what happens when you insert a soft synth.
> The letter F. Open the Freeze Synth option menu.
>
> ------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_
> > Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_
> > soun_d_pat_ches_to_conform_t_o_Sonar’s_t empo
> > From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Thu, September 08, 2011 7:25 am
> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> >
> > Hi Ivan,
> >
> > This maybe a thought, go to delay by first going to the synth rack like a
> > explained in the last email.
> > Now rather than go through all the delays, just arrow to off and press
> > enter, as this synth delay will be a nightmare to synchronise to Sonar's
> > tempo.
> > Once the synth is dry, just select a sonitus delay as they are in sync
> > with
> > Sonar's tempo.
> >
> > Steve W
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "ddtots" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:13 PM
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: [ddots-l] Re: [ddots-l] Re:
> > Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_soun
> > d_pat_ches_to_conform_t_o_Sonar’s_tempo
> >
> >
> > > Hi Ivan,
> > >
> > > Ok, sorry about the delay, no pun intended.
> > >
> > > I'm going to explain as a Sonar 7 user, I imagine this should be similar
> > > on
> > > the later Sonar updates.
> > >
> > > 1: alt 8 for synth rack,
> > > 2: arrow down to the synth you wish to make delay changes,
> > > 3: press P to open the synth properties page,
> > > 4: press F4,
> > > 5: arrow down until you hear "delay control" and press enter,
> > > 6: Jaws should say, "delay button for current element" press enter on
> > > this,
> > > 7: arrow down through all kinds of delay types and click on lets say
> > > stereo
> > > delay,
> > > 8: you can tab through the parameters and change things like delay time,
> > > delay repeats and so on.
> > > 9: once you have the delay set how you want it to sound just press
> > > control
> > > F4 to take you back to the synth rack...
> > >
> > > I know it's not as straight forward as rapture, however, I do like using
> > > DSF
> > > packages in dimension Pro because Cake Talking allows us more access to
> > > the parameters
> > > than most other soft synth products.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > To all on the list, if I've made any major information booboos please
> > > chime in.
> > >
> > > Steve W
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 10:08 PM
> > > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: [ddots-l] Re:
> > > Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_soun
> > > d_pat_ches_to_conform_t_o_Sonar’s_tempo
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi Ivan,
> > >>
> > >> Tomorrow, before I start work on my project, I'll take a quick look to
> > >> see
> > >> if the DSF packages work like the Dimension Pro sounds do within the
> > >> synth
> > >> rack.
> > >>
> > >> I'll email tomorrow my findings.
> > >>
> > >> Steve W
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: <ivanlopez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2011 8:10 PM
> > >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_soun
> > >> d_pat_ches_to_conform_t_o_Sonar’s_tempo
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Thanks Steve,
> > >>
> > >> I am working on your suggestions, though I did go to the synth rack
> > >> alt+8 and went down to the softsynth and patch in question and I did
> > >> not
> > >> see a place where you can adjust any parameters other than changing a
> > >> patch.
> > >>
> > >> The rest of the options say: “synth is connected,” “Plug-in
> > >> name” “Mute” “Solo” “synth is not frozen”
> > >> “Automation” “automation write” “show assign controls”
> > >>
> > >> I also messed with the show assign controls and I can’t tell any
> > >> changes when I pick settings from this option.
> > >>
> > >> Cakewalk’s rep said to go under Dimensions options (F4) and se if the
> > >> cut off or amplitude modulation options will fix the problem.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks again and cheers!
> > >>
> > >> Iván
> > >>
> > >> -------- Original Message --------
> > >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re:_[ddots-l]_Re:_Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_soun
> > >>> d_pat_ches_to_conform_t_o_Sonar’s_tempo
> > >>> From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> Date: Tue, September 06, 2011 7:44 am
> > >>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Ivan,
> > >>>
> > >>> I too have some of the DSF products such as proteus 2000 which work in
> > >>> dimension pro. Dimension Pro has some CT scrip's so you can go into
> > >>> the
> > >>> parameters and change things like the reverb, Chorus, delay, Pitch and
> > >>> so
> > >>> on.
> > >>>
> > >>> I think this is the only way you are going to get the effects or
> > >>> arpeggiater
> > >>> sequences to be in time with Sonar.
> > >>>
> > >>> All the above is found in the synth rack.
> > >>>
> > >>> Hope this helps.
> > >>>
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: <ivanlopez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 6:19 PM
> > >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_sound_pat
> > >>> ches_to_conform_t
> > >>> o_Sonar’s_tempo
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Sorry, my below message apparently did not come through in the last
> > >>> email.
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi Steve,
> > >>>
> > >>> I bought some expansion packs made by Digital Factory for use in
> > >>> Dimension pro.
> > >>>
> > >>> Some of these sound patches or presets have a rhythm aspect to them
> > >>> that
> > >>> is independent from Sonar’s arpeggeator and the rhythm is not aligned
> > >>> to Sonar’s tempo.
> > >>>
> > >>> The rhythmic aspect of the presets I am referring to sometimes is
> > >>> influenced by an arpeggio or reverb effect.
> > >>>
> > >>> Dimension, Rapture, and Z3tar+ have many of these presets that have a
> > >>> rhythmic component and they are already configured to Sonar’s tempo.
> > >>>
> > >>> This means that I can alter Sonar’s tempo and the sound patch or
> > >>> preset’s in Dimension, Rapture, and Z3tar+ will follow Sonar’s tempo
> > >>> changes, but not when I do tempo changes with Digital Factories
> > >>> expansion packs.
> > >>>
> > >>> I hope this makes sense,
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers!
> > >>>
> > >>> Iván
> > >>>
> > >>> ------- Original Message --------
> > >>> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_sound_pat
> > >>> > ches_to_conform_t o_Sonar’s_tempo
> > >>> > From: <ivanlopez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> > Date: Sun, September 04, 2011 11:58 pm
> > >>> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > >>> > > Subject: [ddots-l]
> > >>> > > Re:_[ddots-l]_Configuring_sound_patches_to_conform_t
> > >>> > > o_Sonar’s_tempo
> > >>> > > From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> > > Date: Sun, September 04, 2011 2:07 pm
> > >>> > > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Hi Ivan,
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Do you mean arpeggiator patterns aren't matching tempo when you
> > >>> > > change
> > >>> > > tempo
> > >>> > > in Sonar?
> > >>> > > Try changing the sonar tempo up or down just to see if the
> > >>> > > arpeggiator
> > >>> > > even
> > >>> > > changes tempo at all, I have a feeling it'll stay static as these
> > >>> > > are
> > >>> > > old
> > >>> > > synths. You may find the answer you need in the synth rack as
> > >>> > > dimension
> > >>> > > Pro
> > >>> > > does have fairly good access.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Sorry I couldn't be of anymore help.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Steve W
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> > > From: <ivanlopez@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> > > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>> > > Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 9:05 AM
> > >>> > > Subject: [ddots-l] Configuring sound patches to conform to Sonar’s
> > >>> > > tempo
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Howdy list,
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > The sound patches for my Digital Factory expansion packs (for
> > >>> > > Dimension)
> > >>> > > do not follow Sonar’s tempo.
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Has anybody come across this situation or does anybody know how to
> > >>> > > configure sound patches so they conform to Sonar’s tempo?
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Many thanks!
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Iván
> > >>> > >
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