The Native Instruments Kore interface is not the same as any other native instruments release. I believe it may not be bitmap format at all. I have a feeling that they couldn't have a bitmap system for Kore because the user is required to enter text and something tells me that would be very hard to implement with a bitmap interface. Also, I already know for certain that the open and save dialogue boxes are standard core Windows utilities. They have not been written specially for the NI Kore system. And you are forgetting that Kore is, to a large extent, controlled by a hardware interface like a sound module.
Matt----- Original Message ----- From: "Chi Kim" <ms22282@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 1:49 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Heart-felt plea to Dancing Dots! As far as I know, gigastudio is the best shot because it's not bitmap, and it's somewhat useable already. I'm not sure about the GVI. Does anyone tried GVI? Almost all the NI stuff are completely bitmap based, so we're out of luck with native instruments stuff. Also, VSampler can't translate recent samples with keyswitches and articulations well. Even though VSampler advertise it can read kontakt and giga, most of recent kontakt samples (at least the good ones) are protected, so VSampler can't read them at all. I'm pretty sure that giga will eventually switch to protected library so that a lot of companies can release giga libraries without worrying about the piracy. There are hundreds of good giga library, so I vote for giga! As far as strings and orchestral samples, I don't think anything can beat Vienna and East West. Chi----- Original Message ----- From: "Studio Montebello" <studiomontebello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 7:48 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Heart-felt plea to Dancing Dots! Hey Mat! Are you aware that V-Sampler 3 has been spotted with the Hot Spot Clicker scripts and HSC is now supported by CT 6? Jean Please visit my site at http://www.studiomontebello.com You can also visit my girlfriend's art gallery at http://www.marie-helenemasse.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Brown" <matthew_brown@xxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2007 4:33 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Heart-felt plea to Dancing Dots!
Hi, I'm writing to the list and Dancing Dots firstly to say how pleased I amwith the CakeTalking Scripts for Sonar 6.2, but secondly to beg for access to at least one of the more common samplers out there! I understand that we do have access to SFZ, but as I understand it, this sampler does not allow for the advanced switching functionality and other far more advanced tools offered by say, Giga Studio or the GVI VST plugin. As soon as Dancing Dots script access to HaLion from Steinberg, V Sampler, Native Instruments Core or Taskam's new GVI Giga VST plugin I'm there believe me! I know that Dancing Dots' main focus is access to Sonar with CakeTalking, but it occurs to me that the company is in a prime position to developscripts for at least one of these crucial sample tools, and more importantlythat there would be a huge market for such access. If the scripts were stand-alone and capable of working with either CakeTalking or JSonar, the market would be even more massive! I have readhundreds of messages regarding people's sadness that we don't have access toa decent sampler capable of supporting the really advanced sample formats, me among them, and the sad thing is we are being left further and further behind as a result of no or limited access to such tools. For example, the Native Instruments Core system I believe will offer us somuch power, because it is a hardware/software combo. The 8 most used editingparameters can be assigned to hardware knobs on the external hardware, and every patch can be auditioned directly from the hardware and loaded etc. Organising your library has to be done through the software interface however, but again the process is pretty simple. Basically Core searches for every Native Instrument on your system and creates a database so that you only need to load one plugin to access thewhole lot. Third party products that use the NI format are still compatiblewith Core, but you would have to open each instrument within Core, set the database attributes and then resave so that they also become Core database compatible. Think of it as setting the ID3 tags for an MP3. Without the tags set, any music cataloguing database can't organise your music files into genres, artists, albums and so on, but with them set, all your music suddenly becomes easy to browse through. Well it's the same with Core compatible instruments. The EWQL Symphonic Orchestra Silver addition instruments are not Core ready out of the box, so you would have to open each instrument manually using a standard Windows Open file dialogue, set the attributes, then resave the instrument. Now Core knows that you just added the EWQL Clarinet Trio, and by setting the attributes you've told it that it is anorchestral voice, that it is Clarinet, that it is ensemble etc. Now when you next browse through the library of NI sounds available through Core, eitherby using the data wheel on the hardware, or by typing say, OrchestralClarinet in the search field within the Core plugin window, that EWQL soundis now listed along with any other sounds fitting that category.It occurs to me that access to such a plugin would be amazing for any blindmusician, largely because of the hardware control that is possible over various settings and features, but most importantly because nearly every sample library manufacturer provides their samples in the NI or Kontakt format. OK we can't access the standard NI interface, but what about Core? That is a very different baby, and I reckon it deserves exploration. Access to the GVI plugin from Taskam would give blind musicians direct access to thousands of high-quality sample libraries without the need to struggle with the rather clunky Giga Studio software, or hours and hours sitting there using Awave Studio to convert Giga Libraries over to SFZ or Soundfont format.Access to V Sampler would offer similar although less powerful access to themore common formats.I know we can't have access to all of these tools, but I don't think we needit. Just scripted access to any one of the above would expand the musical horizons of us all a million percent!So this plea really goes out to the Dancing Dots team! Please please pleasecould you look into scripting for at least one of these sample engines? I know myself and thousands of blind musicians would be so very grateful. I will be running some accessibility tests on Core to see how much is accessible out of the box, and if anyone from Dancing Dots wants some feedback on that experiment I would of course be happy to give it. Regards, Matt ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subjectúq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.8.11/837 - Release Date: 06/06/2007 14:03
** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq]** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
