No, no musicLab instruments are included. Back in sonar 2/3 you got there midi drummer and other tools, but no instruments. Well, I haven't seen any musicLab stuff, you might be thinking of guitar rig 3, which is an effect plugIn (not a synth/instrument) made by native instruments. I've never seen any of MusicLab's real series included with sonar though. HTH, D!J!X! _____ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 1:11 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessibility with Caketalking Aren't there some Music Labs instruments that come with Sonar 8 Producer Edition? I know there's one that comes with Sonar 3 Studio Edition, but I'm not sure which one it is. _____ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D!J!X! Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2011 10:06 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessibility with Caketalking Those are somewhat accessible (meaning you can browse patches) if you don't mind using the jaws cursor. I was going to put some hsc sets together for their stuff as they use the same interface throughout their plugs, but haven't had time or cash to get it done (gotta buy a copy of them, I've only used demos which already timed out. If you are looking for real guitar like sounds however, might I suggest you to look up and listen to musicLab's realGuitar? It is of way better quality than strum electric or acoustic IMO. HTH, D!J!X! _____ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Annabelle Susan Morison Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 1:03 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Accessibility with Caketalking Hi, it's Annabelle. I'm planning to purchase both the Strum Acoustic and Strum Electric guitar VST's from Applied Acoustics Systems, and I was wondering, does anybody know whether or not these are accessible with Caketalking? No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3422 - Release Date: 02/04/11 07:34:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3425 - Release Date: 02/05/11 19:33:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.449 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3425 - Release Date: 02/05/11 19:33:00