[cyclinggroupbasel] Re: For amateur cyclists, EPO blood doping may have little effect on real-world road race performance

  • From: Nick Macdonald <macdonaldnick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cyclinggroupbasel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cyclinggroupbasel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2017 07:40:50 +0000

This guy seemed to think it helped: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-32983932

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How I became a drug cheat athlete to test the system - BBC 
...<http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-32983932>
www.bbc.com
These are external links and will open in a new window It felt like I had 
crossed the line. I may not be an elite athlete, but I'm still an athlete. And 
I had just ...




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From: cyclinggroupbasel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
<cyclinggroupbasel-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Hans de Waard 
<h.waard@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: 05 July 2017 07:46
To: cyclinggroupbasel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cyclinggroupbasel] Re: For amateur cyclists, EPO blood doping may 
have little effect on real-world road race performance

They did evaluate relevant doses, but:
- the riders trainerd only 5 hours per week on average
- it was tested on a single ride up the mont ventoux

In other words, the effect if training much more or during a full season 
competition was not measured. A Dutch ex-rider who is now journalist also 
pulled himself out of the research team because of this.

Anyway, don't trust the Dutch 😉 and don't cancel any orders...

Hans

On 5 Jul 2017, at 07:15, Zeller, Andreas 
<andreas.zeller@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:andreas.zeller@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

guess they did not evaluate "relevant" doses, as this would have been 
unethically 😕

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Guy Bogaarts 
<guybogaarts@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:guybogaarts@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
One of the co-authors is an ex-pro (B), therefore this article cannot be 
trusted..

Op 4 jul. 2017 10:57 p.m. schreef "Mike Ufer" 
<mikeufer@xxxxxx<mailto:mikeufer@xxxxxx>>:
Hi Guys

You may cancel your standing EPO orders. It is not worth it 😉

Best

Mike





Press release:
The Lancet Haematology:
For amateur cyclists, EPO blood doping may have little effect on real-world 
road race performance







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The Lancet Haematology: For amateur cyclists, EPO blood doping may have little 
effect on real-world road race performance

While performance was improved in high intensity tests, endurance and road race 
performances were similar for EPO group and placebo.
For well-trained non-professional cyclists, the performance enhancing drug 
rHuEPO (recombinant human erythropoietin) appears to have a small effect on 
high intensity laboratory cycling tests, but the performance enhancing effects 
were mostly undetectable in a laboratory time trial test and an endurance 
road-race up Mont Ventoux (France), according to a new study.




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In this double blind, randomised trial, half (24) of the participants were 
given weekly injections of rHuEPO, and half (24) were given a placebo (saline 
solution) over 8 weeks. The trial involved a series of tests to evaluate 
different types of performance parameters.

  *   How was the effect of EPO on cycling performance investigated? Watch the 
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  *   The final test involved a 110km cycle followed by a 21.5 km road-race up 
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