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- From: Dancefire <dancefire@xxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 22:55:23 +1100
Hi, Roman,
I understand that you have technical problem which block the progress, but I
had my own technical problems in my coding part too, I try my best to solve
them, or find a alternative way. It's ones responsibility to sovle the
problem and finish its own part on time, at least finish it in reasonable
time, or tell others it cannot be done in short time. The problem is that
you didn't finish your part, which slow down the project progress, since
it's very first stage, the program cannot run without the combined fault
file (for keeping the project progress, I manually combined the file). If
it's impossible to finish it on time, you should contact me, and tell me
it's not a good idea to continue working on this part since time limited.
Continue working on the very first stage for 3 weeks should not be
acceptable for the normal project progress. I do respect your works,
however, if it still cannot work before Sunday, I strongly recommand you to
do the Project Description Part II, otherwise it's hard for you to show your
contribution.
Your part task should be cleared in the first and second meeting already,
create a program, which can automatically generate 2 sets of patches, the
first set patches is to make the correct program become a combined faults
program, the second set is to correct the combined faults program to be
correct one. The second set of the patches should be able to apply in random
order. The program should also detect the mutual exclusive faults, and
produce the final number of faults contained in the combined faults file.
After coding, test the finished patches can work in such way.
From my experience in manually combine the faults, you have an alternative
way without using patch/diff program, just check my combined faults file
attached in previous mails to see what is the current way doing the
combination.(by using #define and #ifdef).
One more thing, everyone is busy now, no exception, but we made the decision
to enroll this course, so we should at least finish the job in the course on
time, it's our responsibility to do that. However, I feel ok to do the
project by my own, I'm not worry about myself for the marking, I understand
the system most clearly, and George can see that I am the major contributor
to the project from weekly progress. What I was worried is your performance,
just as a friend, rather than a small group leader. So, try your best to
contribute is my suggestion, but no more than a suggestion.
Regards,
Tao Wang
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> Tao,
> From my understanding of the assignment - we are to automate the testing
> procedure. Should it not be done - the assignment isn't finished.
>
> I agree with you with regards to the aspect of the combination of code has
> yet to be completed - but as I have already explained to you - as well as
> to
> people that attended the class meeting - that Ali and I had a technical
> problem - more so with the logic of the problem at hand - that prevented
> us
> from completing this on time.
>
> We provided our solution for everyone to look at [initially] and to
> comment,
> not one person chose to so. Should you wish for Ali and myself to work on
> something else, as a group leader it is your choice - and I will work on
> something else - just give me a clear outline as to what you want - and
> I'll
> deliver on Monday morning.
>
> As far as your attitude goes, that simply isn't necessary. Understandably
> you're under stress having to manage a project with this many people in it
> -
> but it never-the-less is a group effort, so a bit of respect for other
> members that have more than one subject to contend with would be much
> appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Roman
>
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Dancefire <dancefire@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi, Ali,
> >
> > What did I ask you about last 2 weeks job is to help Roman finish the
> > script which can generate patches automatically, so we can use the
> patches
> > to generate the faulty version and correct the fault version code. But
> there
> > is no obvious progress on it, we still cannot depend on the script to
> > generate the patches. That is, both of you didn't finish your job on
> time.
> > This is the 3rd week you 2 guys still working on it, I cannot allow this
> > happen in the 4th week.
> >
> > So, my suggestion is that if you can finish the job on time, then finish
> > it(including coding and testing) BEFORE Sunday, so you can mail me the
> > program to test, and demo your work on Monday. Otherwise, based on my
> code,
> > do your modification to finish the Part II, which is finding an advanced
> > strategy and apply it in code, prove the result is better against the
> random
> > testing.
> >
> > But your should discuss this with Roman, since you are helping him. If
> he
> > can finish the job with your help on time, then you'd better help him.
> > Anyway, it's your decision.
> >
> > About the management stuff, I assigned the jobs to our members, but it's
> > meaningless if nobody can finish its job, and I have to do all jobs by
> my
> > own, otherwise it will affect my mark. Anyway, I will find a better way
> next
> > week. Changing the meeting time is the first step.
> >
> >
> > Tao Wang
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:17 PM, <ab982@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Tao,
> > > Thanks for your reply
> > > First for project I think at least for me am doing everything that u
> > > asked me about it, second i think you are the leader of the group so
> one of
> > > your main responsibilties is to organize meeting for group then
> distribute
> > > tasks for guys not do it by yourself so how it comes how can I see u
> to get
> > > my tasks and to know what I have to do? am free wednesday after 2.30
> p.m and
> > > also if u want we can organize meeting saturday in library after 3 p.m
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dancefire
> > Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist
> > CCNA
> > http://www.dancefire.org/
> > I'm enjoy in Operating System, Network Security and Embedded System.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Roman Tarnavski
>
>
> School of Computer Science and Software Engineering (SCSSE)
> University of Wollongong
>
> Australian Development Labs (ADL)
> IBM Software Group
>
> [p-ibm] +61 2-8263-4576
> [e] romant@xxxxxxxxxx / romantar@xxxxxxxxxxx
> [w] www.romant.net
>
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> Tao,<div><br></div><div>From my understanding of the assignment - we are
> to automate the testing procedure. Should it not be done - the assignment
> isn't finished.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree with you with regards
> to the aspect of the combination of code has yet to be completed - but as I
> have already explained to you - as well as to people that attended the class
> meeting - that Ali and I had a technical problem - more so with the logic of
> the problem at hand - that prevented us from completing this on time.</div>
> <div><br></div><div>We provided our solution for everyone to look at
> [initially] and to comment, not one person chose to so. Should you wish for
> Ali and myself to work on something else, as a group leader it is your
> choice - and I will work on something else - just give me a clear outline as
> to what you want - and I'll deliver on Monday morning.</div>
> <div><br></div><div>As far as your attitude goes, that simply isn't
> necessary. Understandably you're under stress having to manage a project
> with this many people in it - but it never-the-less is a group effort, so a
> bit of respect for other members that have more than one subject to contend
> with would be much appreciated.</div>
> <div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Roman<br><br><div
> class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Dancefire <<a
> href="mailto:dancefire@xxxxxxxxx";>dancefire@xxxxxxxxx</a>>
> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
> .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
> Hi, Ali,<br><br>What did I ask you about last 2 weeks job is to help Roman
> finish the script which can generate patches automatically, so we can use
> the patches to generate the faulty version and correct the fault version
> code. But there is no obvious progress on it, we still cannot depend on the
> script to generate the patches. That is, both of you didn't finish your
> job on time. This is the 3rd week you 2 guys still working on it, I cannot
> allow this happen in the 4th week.<br>
>
> <br>So, my suggestion is that if you can finish the job on time, then
> finish it(including coding and testing) BEFORE Sunday, so you can mail me
> the program to test, and demo your work on Monday. Otherwise, based on my
> code, do your modification to finish the Part II, which is finding an
> advanced strategy and apply it in code, prove the result is better against
> the random testing.<br>
>
> <br>But your should discuss this with Roman, since you are helping him. If
> he can finish the job with your help on time, then you'd better help
> him. Anyway, it's your decision. <br><br>About the management stuff, I
> assigned the jobs to our members, but it's meaningless if nobody can
> finish its job, and I have to do all jobs by my own, otherwise it will
> affect my mark. Anyway, I will find a better way next week. Changing the
> meeting time is the first step.<br>
>
> <br><br>Tao Wang<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br><br><br><div
> class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:17 PM, <<a href="mailto:
> ab982@xxxxxxxxxx" target="_blank">ab982@xxxxxxxxxx</a>>
> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid
> rgb(204, 204, 204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">
>
> Hi Tao,<br>
> Thanks for your reply<br>
> First for project I think at least for me am doing everything that u asked
> me about it, second i think you are the leader of the group so one of your
> main responsibilties is to organize meeting for group then distribute tasks
> for guys not do it by yourself so how it comes how can I see u to get my
> tasks and to know what I have to do? am free wednesday after 2.30 p.m and
> also if u want we can organize meeting saturday in library after 3 p.m<br>
>
>
> <br>
> thanks<br>
> <br>
> </blockquote></div><br><br
> clear="all"><br></div></div><div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">--
> <br>Dancefire<br>Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist<br>CCNA<br><a
> href="http://www.dancefire.org/"; target="_blank">http://www.dancefire.org/
> </a><br>
> I'm enjoy in Operating System, Network Security and Embedded System.
> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Roman
> Tarnavski<br><br><br>School of Computer Science and Software Engineering
> (SCSSE)<br>University of Wollongong<br><br>Australian Development Labs
> (ADL)<br>
> IBM Software Group<br><br>[p-ibm] +61 2-8263-4576<br>[e] <a href="mailto:
> romant@xxxxxxxxxx">romant@xxxxxxxxxx</a> / <a href="mailto:
> romantar@xxxxxxxxxxx">romantar@xxxxxxxxxxx</a><br>[w] <a href="
> http://www.romant.net";>www.romant.net</a>
> </div>
>
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--
Dancefire
Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist
CCNA
http://www.dancefire.org/
I'm enjoy in Operating System, Network Security and Embedded System.
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