My country is in one of the five eyes or the five power defence arrangement which if l remember happens to include Intelligence. Our Prime Minister John Key who is the Minister of our Intelligence community would off course not say anything about the five eyes. My understanding is that it is a joint intelligence sharing programme. I think many New Zealanders are kind of interested but it is rather toned down in the New Zealand news media, yes we hear about top officials comming here but that is about it. Its pretty much ho hum here. Yes we know what Waihopi does, it intercepts the foreign communications in our part of the world. As does that other 4 powers who do the same for their parts of the world. Do you remember the kur fufle over the Australian govt listening in on the former Indonesian leaders wife a no of years ago, because she was a shaker and mover or at least a potential one so the Australian govt wanted to be well informed on this one. Well, when the government found out about this they were very unhappy publicly. There was a very public falling out between the Indonesian and Australian governments over this very issue. It is well know that governments spy on each other that is not new, but the Aussie's got caught in public doing it. This was using Australia's intelligence resources to know what their neighbours are up to. Jeremy Ps, this sounds similar to article l just posted Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 13:09:58 +0100 From: capricorn8159@xxxxxxxxx To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [cryptome] the nda and privacy tools Some of you may have seen this article already but as the article points out. if your in one of "five eyes" you might be safe.....but imho don't even count on that. with that caveat in place. follow the rabbit below.. -- http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/03/use-or-look-at-online-privacy-tools-nsa-labels-you-an-extremist.html PRIVACY IS A BASIC RIGHT - NOT A CONCESSION