Re: USF4 changes!

  • From: Ryan Williams <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:29:06 +0200

Thanks fer the words of wisdom Nic. Much appreciated :)

I didn't know that f+BD can hop over ground fireballs. That's really cool.
Makes sense but it definitely wasn't something I picked up on.

I'll remember that df+A is good for anti-airing purposes. I've only ever
used it as a combo extender into argentine backbreaker *lol*




On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
> wrote:

> There's very little to teach you then, you've got the just of it.
> Your level up is strong.
> Ummm.....
> His EX gatling can be "free cancelled" into another special.
> He can finish launch combos with an air throw, like Mai.
> He can use the f+BD to hop over ground fireballs.
> df+A is a "good" anti air.
>
> ...that's all I got.
> On 30 Jun 2014 10:14, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I've noticed :P I've actually been on the receiving end of it so I know
>> how effective it can be :(
>>
>> Here's one of the throw setups I have (mid-screen):
>>
>> Argentine Backbreaker (with qcf+C followup), f+BD into super hop j.B,
>> Argentine Backbreaker, rinse and repeat. It looks like Clark goes through
>> (or just slightly above) the opponent during j.B and ends up on the
>> opposite side.
>>
>> The recovery from the j.B is so quick that it appears that Clark is still
>> airborne when the throw comes out. I can alternate between the B and D
>> versions depending on the opponent's tendencies. Or I could just do nothing
>> and see what happens. Came across it by chance when I was messing around
>> with Clark's jumps and it seems to work quite well. Might have limited
>> application against a wary opponent but it should be quite effective in the
>> beginning :)
>>
>> I have yet to explore all of his options but that will come with time. I
>> just need a functional Clark for now and I think I have that *lol*
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> You should add this then.
>>> Standing CD
>>> Just do it when your opponent has been floored.
>>> It kills many wakeup attempts, and Clark is technically airborne during
>>> it too.  Then you can cancel it with a F+BD and put the fear of god into
>>> your opponent with 3 special throw mixups, an EX machinegun combo, well
>>> pretty much all options he has.
>>>  On 30 Jun 2014 09:37, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> LB sensei ftw *lol*
>>>>
>>>> I put Clark on the team for two reasons: Damage and LB's hatred of j.CD.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:35 AM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Exactly.
>>>>> LB with some good advice for a change.
>>>>> Good stuff.
>>>>> On 30 Jun 2014 09:28, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yup, that's the idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iori is the battery for the team. I'm glad LB suggested I play him
>>>>>> because his confirms are really easy and lead to good damage. Ryo does ok
>>>>>> with 2-3 bars. Clark is an absolute monster with 5 and full drive meter.
>>>>>> His range is an issue but at that point I'm in gamble mode anyway. All I
>>>>>> really need to do is just land one hit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's a pretty good team strat actually.
>>>>>>> Your team gets and more damage from 1st to last. But you have to get
>>>>>>> closer to your opponent after each loss.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Clark is a problem with meter. His range is an issue.
>>>>>>> Ryo has good range and uses some meter.
>>>>>>> EX Iori has great range and builds meter.
>>>>>>>  On 30 Jun 2014 08:53, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah. On point.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ryo second, Clark anchor.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:45 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> you playing ex iori right?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 08:39:31 +0200
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You should have told me to play Clark ages ago. I've really been
>>>>>>>>> missing out *lol*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If I get good results on Saturday, I'll keep using him :P
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:36 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> please sap don't go to the clarkside. stay in the light.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @rich, erm ya thanks
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 08:34:23 +0200
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Btw, I've been working on those KOF combos LB. I've also added
>>>>>>>>> Clark to my team. He's actually not that difficult to use. I even 
>>>>>>>>> have a
>>>>>>>>> 100% HD combo with him and legit throw setups after knockdown.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My team order is going to be a little different now but I think I
>>>>>>>>> can make it work. I'll be free in Blaz but I'll definitely try my 
>>>>>>>>> best not
>>>>>>>>> to be free in KOF *lol*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Ryan Williams <
>>>>>>>>> ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There's still KOF and BlazBlue LB :P
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:29 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> rank as it stands now:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    *Rank* *Participant Name* *Game/Set Wins* *Points Scored*  1
>>>>>>>>> Luminous 12 36  2 SAPhoenix 11 35  3 Sigma.g19 9 30  4 Lindseyboi
>>>>>>>>> 7 27  5 Zombiehunta 6 24  6 O.M.A. Hei-Long 5 18  7 Ennohex 4 17
>>>>>>>>> 8 ANGRY MAD JIN 2 7
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ugh im number 4 , that's not good
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 08:21:39 +0200
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If memory serves, the suggestion tabled by Lumi is that we
>>>>>>>>> subtract 'Points Given Up' from 'Points Scored' and add it to 
>>>>>>>>> 'Game/Set
>>>>>>>>> Wins' for the final result. Lumi, please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:14 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ugh...
>>>>>>>>> my excel skills r gna be tested today. I shall do it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 08:09:13 +0200
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought you guys just wanted to see what the current standings
>>>>>>>>> are at the sesh. I didn't know you wanted me to keep that spreadsheet!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I didn't save it :(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry LB. You'll just have to do the math man. Either that or wait
>>>>>>>>> until we conclude the qualifiers for the final result.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 8:04 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wtf man sap, wheres the excel with the current standings?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 07:59:40 +0200
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>>>>>> From: ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *LOL*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As requested:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://challonge.com/usf4qualifier
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://challonge.com/umvc3qualifier
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 7:34 AM, lindsey kiviets <
>>>>>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Morning peeps,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> why am I lagging in d3?????????? this is fkd up , im so jealous of
>>>>>>>>> your dps right now paas, my hate for you is strong. half a million 
>>>>>>>>> dps over
>>>>>>>>> 5 million toughness, almost 8000 dex O_o.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> have you tried to do 100% evasion build? I believe its possible
>>>>>>>>> now since you can get  over 8000 dex.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @sap, can you link us to the overall standings for the 5v5 please.
>>>>>>>>> My predictions are that if we are 7 then I don't think Richard and 
>>>>>>>>> manase
>>>>>>>>> is gna make it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> so the final team, in points.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> me - all points
>>>>>>>>> gb - below me by a lot
>>>>>>>>> lumi - above sap
>>>>>>>>> sap - above zombie
>>>>>>>>> zombie  - above richard.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2014 21:58:52 +0200
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>>>>>> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> along with Lust of the Dead.
>>>>>>>>> The script there was just as riveting.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The plot for this movie sounds so crazy I just must get it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A brilliant doctor on a quest for revenge buys a young woman and
>>>>>>>>> trains her to be the ultimate assassin, implanting gun parts in her 
>>>>>>>>> body
>>>>>>>>> that she must later assemble and use to kill her target before she 
>>>>>>>>> bleeds
>>>>>>>>> to death.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3141912/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Wham
>>>>>>>>> ACDC
>>>>>>>>> Red hot Chilli Pepper.
>>>>>>>>> On 29 Jun 2014 21:49, "Ilitirit Sama" <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The reason it's like that it's because the Japanese have problems
>>>>>>>>> pronouncing V so often they write it as a B.   As Manase said, Japan
>>>>>>>>> doesn't actually have words with a V, but since the introduction of 
>>>>>>>>> Western
>>>>>>>>> terms into their vocabulary they were forced to create a symbol for 
>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>> Still, in most cases they prefer to use a B.  When they know what the 
>>>>>>>>> word
>>>>>>>>> means, they'll translate it correctly.  For example, Forever is 
>>>>>>>>> "foeba" in
>>>>>>>>> Japanese, but it's common enough for them to know it so translate it 
>>>>>>>>> with a
>>>>>>>>> V.  Interestingly enough, even in the original Japanese, they write
>>>>>>>>> Mohammad Abdul's name with a V (ヴ) so even when it's translated, it's 
>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>> Avdol.  Westerners know they mean Abdul though.  The same thing 
>>>>>>>>> happens
>>>>>>>>> with L and R.  Japanese call Rolento "Lorento", presumably because 
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> associate with the Italian name "Lorenzo".  In Jojo's Anjuro is more
>>>>>>>>> commonly known as "Angelo".  At the end of the day it just boils down 
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> how familiar they are with the words and names.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've never realised how many of the Jojo's characters are named
>>>>>>>>> after music artists/songs.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vanilla Ice
>>>>>>>>> Steely Dan
>>>>>>>>> Kenny G
>>>>>>>>> Funny Valentine
>>>>>>>>> Telence T. Darby (should obviously be Terence)
>>>>>>>>> Iggy (Pop?)
>>>>>>>>> Enya [Gail]
>>>>>>>>> Foo Fighters
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Love the names in Jojos though.  Whoever came up with the name
>>>>>>>>> "Weather Report" is a genius.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Avdol is how Japanese read and pronounce Abdul but not how the
>>>>>>>>> name is written.
>>>>>>>>> So what we see and here in games/anime is the mispronunciation of
>>>>>>>>> the name which is clearly wrong.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 8:18 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not in Japan. lol
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Manase Zote <bmlzote@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's Abdul bro :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 7:51 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just watched eps12 and 13 of Stardust Crusaders.
>>>>>>>>> I miss Avdul :(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 6:56 PM, <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank a lot man
>>>>>>>>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> *From: * Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> *Sender: * cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> *Date: *Sun, 29 Jun 2014 18:54:17 +0200
>>>>>>>>> *To: *<cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> *ReplyTo: * cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Raid 2
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 6:51 PM, <greattekkenmaster@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What movie is this from?? Looks cool
>>>>>>>>> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you!
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> *From: * Nicholas Robertson-Muir <nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> *Sender: * cpt-fgc-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> *Date: *Sun, 29 Jun 2014 18:35:38 +0200
>>>>>>>>> *To: *<cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> *ReplyTo: * cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: USF4 changes!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...this one
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 6:33 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, not that dude
>>>>>>>>> Lol
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 5:41 PM, Ilitirit Sama <ilitirit@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/scale_small/1/12670/263141-shome_hr.jpg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir <
>>>>>>>>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Watching The Raid 2.
>>>>>>>>> The baseball dude reminds me of Lumi.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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