You are receiving this e-mail because you were remembered expressing interest in standardizing a relational database interface for C++. "Standardizing" means "create a proposal for WG21". I have set up a mailing list at freelists.org for the collaboration. The "home page" for the list is at: //www.freelists.org/list/cpp-db-std I've taken the initial list of e-mail addresses from http://wiki.edg.com/twiki/bin/view/Wg21portland2012/DatabaseInterface Posting is limited to subscribers, but all list traffic will be in a public archive, so please do not post passwords or other access credentials to the list. (Bill: I've made you list administrator; administrators can remove posts from the archive.) This enterprise is not (yet) a Study Group, and I have no incentive to go there at this time. Now that the administrative stuff is out of the way, please familiarize yourself with the three existing WG21 papers in the area: http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3415.html http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3458.pdf http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2012/n3459.html This should by no means limit our scope or discussion, but it should give an introduction to the topic. My general plan to have a WG21 database interface proposal happen consists of these steps, not necessarily in that order: - describe use uses - define scope (the potential scope is unmanageably huge) - define design goals - evaluate existing interfaces - define the interface - refine and write LWG-ready wording We should have a paper describe the current status in each mailing, for WG21 to take notice of the progress. I've created a few headings on this wiki page, and put a few concerns of my own there: http://wiki.edg.com/twiki/bin/view/Wg21portland2012/DatabaseInterface Maybe we should start with use cases, scope, and design goals. Does anyone have use cases beyond those already described? Thanks, Jens