Thanks John for some information I didn't have on the Rock Island, a group
which I am a member of.
Keith
-----Original Message-----
From: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
Dennis Storzek
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 3:09 PM
To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [cpsig] Re: Pullman Clover cars on Soo-Dominion 1946
--- In cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "jshorvath10583" <jshorvath10583@...> wrote:
>
> * There were seven cars built to Pullman Plan 3959B in 1929 that had
> GOLDEN-prefix names as built. These were 3cpt-2dr-lng-obs (open)
> configuration and assigned originally to the CRI&P and the Golden
> State. Six of them were rebuilt in 1937 to Plan 3959H with a 3cpt-
> 3dr-lng-obs (enclosed) configuration with no change in name.
> Apparently these cars were used on the Soo-Dominion ca. 1946 as
> inferred from the 3-3 room configuration listed in PTTs and I spoke
> about these cars in an earlier post. These six reconfigured cars
> lasted in the Pullman pool until 1959.
John,
Did this group of cars have the abreiviated "fake" open platform with
the brass railing almost against the car end?
On page 288 of Dubin's "Some Classic Trains" is a photo of the tail
end of a C&NW passenger train at Chicago carrying twin tail signs for
the Mountaineer and C&NW's Viking. The view is a very steep view from
the end, but It does show the end railing, and the fact that the car
lacks step boxes at that end, having only stirrups. All the open
platform Pullman cars that I know of had full steps and traps on the
platform, so this must have been one of the cars where the railing was
decorative only. I had always just assumed that the car was assigned
to the C&NW and only ran to the Twin Cities, but your comment above
makes me wonder.
Seeing that the Mountaineer stoped running over the C&NW to Chicago in
1949 or 1950 (I'd have to check) this could be right in the 1946 time
frame Rob is looking for.
Dennis
