Re: [cpsig] Re: Mountaineer in 1941
- From: "Roger Burrows" <rgburrows@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 09:53:46 -0700
Thanks for this, John. This almost certainly makes the train The
Mountaineer, as Rob first suggested, or perhaps a following section.
Anytime I saw The Mountaineer in the mid-1950s until the train was
discontinued in 1958(?), it always had at least one head-end car,
always a CPR car. Is it possible that the train was operated in 1941
without such a CPR head-end car? Or, does that suggest that this is a
following section of The Mountaineer?
Roger Burrows
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From: jshorvath10583
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Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 6:41 AM
Subject: [cpsig] Re: Mountaineer in 1941
"Roger Burrows" <rgburrows@...> wrote:
So that would make the first car [which appears to me to be a
combination-type car] a Pullman car also?
Yes. Pullman called these "composite" cars. They were essentially
baggage-buffet-lounges.
I only had time to do a preliminary assessment of the car in the photo
but based on the window pattern and other details I think one could
narrow it down to one of perhaps a half-dozen cars built to Pullman
Plan 3951x which was the latest and last group of conventional
composite cars built by Pullman during the 1925-7 timeframe.
Relatively few were ever ACed (many were sold to the railroads during
WW2 and converted to coaches, the CNR in particular bought and
converted quite a few) and even fewer still with ice AC which is what
this car seems to have. Pullman records also indicate that these cars
alternated between service to Florida in the winter and pool
availability during the summer which would fit the use here.
John S. Horvath
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