Re: [cpsig] Re: [C-P-R] HCR end of the line
- From: David HILL <techill@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:11:49 -0700 (PDT)
--- On Wed, 6/17/09, W. A. (Dale) Wilson <dale.wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There it is in Black and White 33million to rebuild the line .However with
having to widen highway 17 to 4lanes with increased truck traffic who
much.Spending 33million is small in comparison. However it fixing a rail line
does not have the in your face political gain that spending a couple of hundred
million on a fancy 4lane road with the taxpayers hard earned money . Then
hundreds of trucks can burn millions of gallons of diesel fuel
inefficiently delivering paper products and steel . Just like when they tore
up the lines from Midland . Now MidlAND IS CLOGGED WITH TRUCKS INTELLEGENT EH!!
oH THE WISDOM OF PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENTS LOL .oH I FEEL THAT SOAPBOX BENEATH MY
FEET LOL regards David Hill In all my travells to the Sault I have only once
seen a train on the International bridge there is it being used more since CN
took it oer with their American conections From: W. A. (Dale) Wilson
<dale.wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cpsig] Re: [C-P-R] HCR end of the line
To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Received: Wednesday, June 17, 2009, 1:14 PM
On 16-Jun-09, at 8:59 AM, b4cprail wrote:
No answers but see http://tinyurl.com/nt6c48 ;.
Rainer Auer
Saskatoon, SK
The request - or was it a demand - for provincial and/or federal aid
to find the $33 million needed for necessary repairs and upgrading may
be a political ploy and it will be interesting to see what official
government responses say.
For many decades the Sault branch has been simply an extended
interchange track from CP's main line to an international border
crossing at the Sault. Some of this traffic seems to continue but is
down from the days when CP had considerable industrial traffic to and
from the Little Current subdivision south of Espanola, [single level]
container trains between Montreal and the American midwest and CP
controlled the Soo Line west of Sault, Michigan.
Local business apart from Domtar at Espanola and Essar Steel in the
Sault isn't significant. The only prospect on the horizon that I'm
aware of is the Totten Mine being developed by Vale INCO at
Worthington, but that isn't going to be pushed until nickel prices
rise considerably and then the huge use of trucking by the mining
industry in the region does not bode well for any future rail traffic.
Being devoted to high volume and long distance bulk traffic means
railways don't attempt to compete with trucks most places. Ontario
provincial governments (of any political stripe) seem to think that's
fine and to help themselves have limited transfer of payments to
municipalities whose roads are being torn up by heavy, long haul (for
them) truckers.
Of course it's time for some political philosophies to change, but to
date the population of Ontario doesn't seem convinced. Guess it's too
much fun being on the same road with loaded ore and slurry trucks.
Dale Wilson <dale.wilson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Nickel Belt Rails, Box 483, Station "B", Sudbury, ON, P3E 4P6
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