Re: [cpsig] Pullmans on CP Passenger Trains

  • From: "Rob Kirkham" <rdkirkham@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:16:52 -0700

That makes sense to me Don - rare but not impossible. Looking at the various trains shown in the video, the number of Pullman cars present goes way beyond rare. I doubt that the sample includes a single instance of that rare but not impossible happening a Pullman car destined for east of Moose Jaw. In any event, on that level of probability, I think its reasonable to conclude that the vast majority of the trains shown with multiple Pullman's in the consist would be shots of the Mountaineer/Soo Dominion.

Rob Kirkham

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From: "Don Thomas" <thomasd@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 10:16 PM
To: <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [cpsig] Pullmans on CP Passenger Trains

It was apparently rare but not impossible for the Dominion to carry Pullmans east of Moose Jaw. West of Moose Jaw the Dominion could carry Pullmans switched to or from an extra section of the Mountaineer.

Don Thomas


----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Kirkham
 To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 5:05 PM
 Subject: Re: [cpsig] Pullmans on CP Passenger Trains





 Are you sure it was the Dominion you were looking at and not the
 Soo-Dominion/Mountaineer? I have the same video but have not had time to
think through the Pullman presence yet. I really like what is shown in the
 video. In my view these trains reflect what we find in most photos of the
 Mountaineer/Soo-Dominion in the Rockies and west. I kind of doubt they
 show the Dominion as it would appear east of Moose Jaw.

 Rob Kirkham

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 From: "Michael Salfi" <mikesue.salfi@xxxxxxxxx>
 Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 3:12 PM
 To: <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Subject: [cpsig] Pullmans on CP Passenger Trains

 > Hi all,
 >
 > I just purchased a new DVD entitled "Canadian Rails Vintage Scrapbook",
 > released by Charles Smiley. It is 1 1/2 hours in length and covers the
 > years 1952 through 1973. There is also one sequence filmed in 1939. The
 > entire DVD is in color, cost was $29.95.
 >
> There are many sequences taken from Banff to Field of CPR passenger trains
> and what struck me was the number of Pullman coaches on trains such as the
> "Dominion" in the years prior to the introduction of the "Canadian". One
> sequence included two Pullmans on a triple headed steam powered passenger
 > train, another included two Pullmans on a double headed passenger train
 > and
 > yet another sequence included one Pullman. Another sequence was of a 12
 > car
 > passenger train with an unidentified head end car, 5 Pullmans, one
 > Pennsylvania one Western Pacific and the remainder being CPR passenger
 > cars
 > including a Grove sleeper. All of the above trains had the CPR open air
 > observation car at the rear and were powered by CPR steam locomotives.
 >
 > Another train had what I believe to be 3 Pullmans, although I could not
 > read
> Pullman in the letterboard, but those three passenger cars were green. And
 > finally, another CPR passenger train with an unidentified passenger car
 > that
 > was red and grey, the grey being above and below the windows.
 >
> This DVD was released this year, I got mine at Credit Valley Railway. It
 > includes CPR, Soo Line, CNR, GTR, Deux Montagnes electrics, QRL&P, QC,
 > Esquimalt & Nanaimo, PGE and logging lines on Vancouver Island. I was
 > very
 > impressed with the quality of this DVD and would recommend it to anyone
 > with
 > an interest in this time period.
 >
 > Mike
 >
 >
> >
 >
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