Re: [cpsig] Differences in CP Enclosed Watertanks

  • From: "KVRailway" <kvrailway@xxxxxxx>
  • To: <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 17:43:46 -0800

To add to Doug's comments, from what I can tell, whether or not a tank was enclosed depended upon the era. It appears that most water tanks on KVR territory were originally built as enclosed structures. Off the top of my head, Iago and Oliver were locations which had enclosed tanks in early years, but were rebuilt in later years as open tanks. Tulameen had a water tank constructed there for the first time in 1943 which was an open tank from the word 'go.' If you have a look at the photos on K.V.R. MILEBOARDS pages 2-20 and 3-22, you will see the differences between the enclosed and open tanks. What you see there would be characteristic of the differences on CP territory in BC. If the tub was of higher capacity, the structure would stand taller, at least so far as I've been able to determine so far. The basic appearances would be as you see illustrated on these two pages. The water tank at Brookmere was increased at some point from 20,000 to 40,000 gallons capacity. Even today, you can see how the original tank enclosure was simply increased in height by a few feet to accommodate the taller tub.

Joe Smuin


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----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Rhodes" <farronhill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [cpsig] Differences in CP Enclosed Watertanks


That's a broad question, Jim, but hopefully this will give you a starting point.

There were lots of tanks on the west coast (warmer side of the mountains) that were not enclosed. You can see photos in various of the standard books by Robert Turner and Barrie Sanford. You could also Google Parksville and Port Alberni since they have had their non-enclosed tanks restored and you can probably find photos of them. A model kit was available at one time for the open-top square tanks like the one at Goldstream years ago.

The enclosed tanks were basically built the same way as non-enclosed, and then the enclosure was built around them. As with non-enclosed ones, the tanks that held more water would be bigger, so you would expect the enclosure would also be bigger. There have been drawings in Model Railroader (Gib Kennedy article) that you could compare to the ones in the CPHA library.

Doug


----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Guillaume
 To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:51 AM
 Subject: [cpsig] Differences in CP Enclosed Watertanks


I've noticed reference to 20,000 gallon and 40,000 gallon watertanks in Joe Smuin's excellent "KVR Mileboards" field manual. Examining the CPHA Library, I also saw a reference to a 60,000 gallon tank as well.

Would all of these tanks be of an enclosed variety, and what would exterior visual differences be? Are any members aware of any tanks that would not have been the enclosed type? And if so, where were they located and are photos available? Thanks. Jim








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