But being a realist, what is the bottom line here. Yes I agree it is sad
and I too prefer Kodachrome to any other slide film, but I doubt Kodak would
have stopped selling it if it sold as well as it did 30 years ago. I
believe the bottom line is that people today, myself included, want instant
gratification, and that means seeing the result as soon as you snap the
photo, and that means digital photography. The added benefit to this is
that you can instantly see if the result is as expected, and if not, delete
it and take another, or if you have a large memory card, just take another.
The drawback, and I do not know if it actually is a drawback yet, is that
100 years from now, how good will all those digital images be, if they are
existant at all. This may result in our descendents not having the benefit
of being able to access photos of our current time period as we have the
benefit of photos from the past 100 years, thanks to Kodak films.
Mike
On 6/23/09, David HILL <techill@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Opp[s the dam spell check changed my Ektachrome to a Kodachrome maybe its
feeling bad too. . David Hill A.R.P.S.
--- On Tue, 6/23/09, David HILL <techill@xxxxxxxxxx <techill%40rogers.com>>
wrote:
From: David HILL <techill@xxxxxxxxxx <techill%40rogers.com>>
Subject: Re: [cpsig] A sad day in photographic history.
To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpsig%40yahoogroups.com>
Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 10:58 PM
Sorry but if you are getting green or red locomotives the problem is pro
ably the lab you are taking it to .The store wanted 48.00 per roll that
certainly kills sales I will agree
How to tell a professional colour lab they are becoming rare but they do
processing for commercial photographers who are really fussy they are called
Q labs by Kodak . Now I work for a company that distributed small volume E6
chemistry . I ran technical tests on films a lot my favourite film
Kodachrome SW 100 The big problem was water quality especially in Sask and
Alberta I would advise customers to buy distilled water to mix developers
and put an acid stop bath in to stop the complete color developing phase
worked with a PHD chemist's to find ways around water problems cold
developer or contamination would give green transparencies. the cyan layer
would continue to develop and result in Magenta images but adding a secret
ingredient called TLC tender loving care!!! E6 films could really work
well. Its the freaking processing . I taught classes coast to coast to
photographers about color processing . In the 80,s and 90,s every Tom Dick
and
Harry opened a one hr lab most of them did not have a clue what they were
dealing with. I can remember a lab in a town this is a long closed one he
was getting very cyan prints Looked at the negs he was producing they
were so cyan it was criminal. I said did you change the filters "What
filters " got the maintenance book for the machine open the filters to find
black tarred mess !!!the system was so contaminated it had to be drained and
completely striped and all new rollers he went bankrupt Now to run a
Kodachrome process you need very high quality
chemistry at very tight tolerances and a PhD chemical engineer to monitor
things The big thing is oxidation of the chemistry if you don,t get enough
volume you have to dump and refill the tanks . Let me put to you this way
you fill your car up 70 litres of gas drive to the grocery store 4kms then
leave the car for 2days but the gas goes bad can,t use it so you have to
dump it into a waste container 67litres otherwise over 90%down the drain
you woulcertainlyly get rid of that car , So this what is the situation with
Kodachrome Now Kodak had Qlab designation for pro E6labs my twfavouritete
E6 labs have quit for lack obusinessss I saw a processor cut up for scrap
stainless steel a $80,000.00 machine to the scrap metal dealer why cause the
chemistry was gong bad, lack of volume but check with Kodak for where there
still is a Q lab we quit importing small volume E6 5years ago the cost just
went to high . I can also talk lenperform
acece quality of studio strobes etc this is my bag Ok This how I have
made a living for 43 years DAVID E> Hill A.R.P.S.Associatete Royal
Photographic Society GreaBritainan) --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Doug Cummings <
DougCummings@xxxxxxx <DougCummings%40Shaw.ca>> wrote:
From: Doug Cummings <DougCummings@xxxxxxx <DougCummings%40Shaw.ca>>
Subject: Re:[cpsig] A sad day in photographic history.
To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <cpsig%40yahoogroups.com>
Received: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 5:09 PM
This is off topic but a rebuttal is in order.
$48.00 is ridiculous. Why are you paying courier prices when regular mail
rates will work just as well. It costs me less than $10 to get a roll
processed, postage included.
Dwayne's is set up to process Kodachrome, they are the logical one to take
it over. We all know processing is or was an involved process, but they
developed a developing process for Kodachrome several years ago which
eliminated a lot of the ecological concerns. Fuji films are balanced to
green, The Ekta films are balanced to red and orange. Kodachrome is
neutral.
I don't like green or red locomotives that were not that color to begin
with, so there is no real choice.
Doug
The production of Kodachrome is a very involved process . The major problem
is processing very tight tolerances there is the orginal black and white
develpmment a reversal process and cyan majenta and yellow developers
separate bleaches and washes for each step. Production of the chemistry
required very demanding . So with this in mind considering the declining
market it would be a interesting proposal to a bank to finance such a
venture. However I wonder if Kodk took a page from the railways treatment
of
passenger passenger traffic keep putting the price up till the consumer
says
forget it!! Just as I mentioned $48.00 shipping and processing when I can
get a roll of Ektachrome done for $17.00 for a rollof 35mm 36 exp mounted
and I can get 120 format for my Rollei and 6x12 panarama Horseman . The
only
company I could see taking over kodachrome is Fuji and their Velvia
developed in simple E6 can even process in your Bathroom!!! so why go to a
super fussy technology when you have a good product thats selling regards
DAVID HILL
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