This ebay image might help. The URL will change after it's sold tonight, but
you still should be able to access it.
<<http://www.ebay.com/itm/CPR-train-register-office-at-Saugeen-Ontario-ORIGINAL-35-mm-slide-/321005758091?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item4abd6f268b>>
Steve Lucas.
--- In cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Brent" <brentglen@...> wrote:
Personally, I don't worry too much about getting an exact colour since you
will never know exactly what the colour was backwards in time. Red seems to
be a difficult colour for photography, Kodachrome was particularly bad for
exaggerating reds, so even if you find photo's the colours won't be correct
to what it was.
I use floquil/polly scale oxide red for the structures, roof brown and depot
buff for the trim. By painting all the railway buildings with the same
colours you create the "company" look. I might weather each structure
differently, but start from the same base colours.
Brent
--- In cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Rob Kirkham" <rdkirkham@> wrote:
Woo! Well, that's a question that can raise quite a controversy. So I'll
start by touching quickly on the endless controversy on this topic.
People have different opinions and different memories - there are some who
much prefer a more tuscan colour; others (including me) who favour a
somewhat more mineral red colour; photos help but do not record accurate
colours in a way one can compare to paint - different medium = different
results; plus lighting conditions, exposure, deterioration of slides and
prints, etc etc. And while the company had standards it adhered to, paint
through the years was mixed from ingredients and those who did it scoff at
the notion that the colours didn't wander (within a narrow range) from
paint job to paint job. Then there is sun and rain and snow and etc -
which all do a number on paint. There is at least one copy of a CPR
standard drawings book in existence that includes standardized paint chips,
but I've never seen it and we've never had it matched to current paint
products (which would allow widespread distribution of colour info and
remains a personal goal).
The CP colours yahoo list includes a lot of discussion on matching shades -
and some of those efforts have been used in real life restoration of
buildings. But the controversy remains. Notice I've said nothing about
choice of model paint brands or colour choices.
Beyond the main colour, there are trim colours - & they can be debated too.
And a lot of line-side buildings did not have different trim colours -
they were entirely in the main colour. Where trim received different paint
(such as a gate crossing tower, water tower, station, etc. there are two
possible colours - a darker trim and a lighter trim. Both were used on
some buildings; sometimes only one trim colour was used. And the shades of
both the light and dark colours vary. For the lighter trim, colours range
from white to a soft yellow.
For the darker trim colour, some appear to be just black mixed into the
main colour - leading to a darker brown. Other versions use a more tuscan
base darkened with black. When examined about 15 years ago, the water
tower in Cranbrook used two obviously different shades of darker trim
colour.
So, with all that background, I suggest you have a look at a the photos
section of both this and the cp colours yahoo list. Also these web pages
include a sense of the colour shades:
- http://www.stationmuseum.ca/station/
- ttp://www.forthjunction.com/cpr-stations.htm
- http://www.gov.mb.ca/chc/hrb/mun/m215.html
-
http://novascotiarailwayheritage.com/Photo%20archive/Kentville%20new%20&%20old%2016JY89%20DAO.jpg
- http://blog.traingeek.ca/2010/10/herbert-cpr-train-station-museum.html
-
http://www.alberta2005rail.com/whatsnew/2010/April%2020%202010/April202010.htm
Google images can produce a lot of additional views.
Rob
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From: "a17_695" <a17_695@>
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:45 PM
To: <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [cpsig] Mid 1950s CPR Structure Colours
Good Afternoon. I am looking for the correct colours for the following
structures: interlocking tower, elevated gate tower and a typical
trackside shanty. Any photos (colour) would be appreciated as well.
Thanks,
Stephen
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