is there an e-mail address for Elgin?
Robin Lowrie
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From: dave hill
To: cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Bulk] [cpsig] Brass and plastic locomotives,
I have been going to put this e mail up for a few days but we got side
tracked Norwest Kits and Castings is discontinuing production as of FEB 15
so its last call for their fantastic models of grove cars now they are the
toughest kits I have ever tried but you certianly learn a lot about car
constructio and working with Resin I have found them more accurate than the
Van Hobbies brass cars. Now Pierre Oliver of St Thomas has a service to
assemble Norwest and BGR cars hes is listed under Canadian Manufactures as
Elgin Models so If you don,t want to build kits Pierre can build you a
fantastic grove
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Brownfield" <kbtrain@xxxxxxx>
To: <cpsig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:54 PM
Subject: [Bulk] [cpsig] Brass and plastic locomotives,
> List, I don't mean to throw cold water on your wonderful conversation of a
> production run of the Hudson and Jubilee, but reality needs to be taken
> into
> account.
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> In the mid eighties and nineties a friend and I imported some brass
> locomotives and a caboose; this was not an easy thing to do as it took
> three
> and a half years to get the first unit to review. Building a model engine
> is
> not an easy thing to do; it is time consuming, difficult and full of
> changes
> regardless of how well it is planed. Dies are not cheap though with the
> new
> EDD machines it is easier; the manufacturing of parts is also expensive
> whether it is for brass or plastic. Last but not least, you either make to
> many units or not enough. The price has to be just right otherwise you
> will
> not sell them and lose money, or if to low you lose money.
>
> When you produce a model it has to be generic enough to sell and you can't
> worry about the rivet counters as they don't buy enough to make it worth
> while.
>
> Last but not least, plunk down several thousand dollars for engineering,
> dies and other incidentals and go three years with no income and see if
> you
> think it is worth while.
>
> Regardless of the models wanted by the few, manufactures will not accept
> pre-payment for products that are not developed or in the pipeline, too
> many
> things can happen that will bring the wrath of the Hobby Shops and
> modelers
> down on your head if you can't make the delivery date, so it is not worth
> the trouble.
>
> I have talked to several of the manufactures, they have stuff in the
> pipeline and are two to three years out with new locomotives, none of
> which
> are the Hudson's or Jubilee's, and at my age I'm sure I won't live long
> enough to see them.
>
> Perhaps way down line a manufacture will find it profitable to make a
> Hudson, Jubilee or even a Box Electric, but don't hold your breath.
>
> Keith
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> Keith Brownfield
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