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From: Donald Scott (by way of PBowers <57era@xxxxxxxx>)
To: AtlanticRails@xxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: December 2, 2000 8:09 PM
Subject: [AtlanticRails] B#-257-4 Canadian Pacific Passenger
Trains-Montreal-Maine-Saint John-Halifax
Continued.
Part # 4
Former Canadian Pacific Railway Passenger Services-Montreal-via State of
Maine-Saint John-Halifax
Remarks: Symbol * Denotes CPR Steam in Tuscan Red-Grey-Black-Gold Paint
Scheme.
Speaking of Canadian Pacific Steamship's 26,500 ton "Empress of
Scotland"(ex Trans-Pacific service then the "Empress of Japan"(2nd).
Normally this liner after the New York-West Indies-South America Winter
cruise season sailed New York-Liverpool direct with "Boat Trains" "Empress
Voyageur" operated by British Railways Liverpool-London; same would apply
if CP liners were departing from Southampton; boat trains "Empress
Voyageur" from London to Southampton. This liner also operated a number of
cruises from Southampton, Eng. to West Indies-South America & return.
The "Empress of Scotland"(2nd) made the odd eastbound run New
York-Halifax-Liverpool; therefore a special CPR Boat train would operate
Montreal-Saint John then CN motive power Saint John-Moncton-Halifax. The
passenger equipment would dead-head back to Montreal via the same route.
In 1946 semi-streamlined heavy 4-6-2 *2392(eight-wheel tender) came from
Ontario and was assigned to the "Gull" passenger service Boston-Saint John
over the B&M, Maine Central, CP route. CP handling the service from
Vanceboro, Maine-McAdam, N.B.-Saint John. That same year two new light
modern 4-6-2's of the G-5 class came to McAdam and Saint John new from
Canadian Locomotive Company at Kingston, Ont. They were 1255 assigned to
the Saint John-McAdam section of the through service to
Woodstock-Aroostook-Edmundston, N.B. Locomotive 1256 was actually assigned
to the "Gull" service Saint John-Vanceboro, Maine, then MEC taking over to
Portland, B&M to Boston. One evening at Saint John heavy semi-streamlined
4-6-2*2392 handled the westbound "Gull", while new modern light 4-6-2 1256
handled Train # 39 at 2000 for Montreal-a heavy train; 1256 would go as far
as McAdam and a power change with a heavy semi-streamlined 4-6-2 taking
over runthrough to Montreal.
During the summer of 1940 heavy 4-6-2 2307 lost its tuscan red scheme(an
Ontario locomotive) just in black & gold was assigned to the "Gull" between
Vanceboro, Maine and Saint John.(CP power assigned to the "Gull" backed
over to the Maine side early in the morning to pick up the "Gull" . The
westbound "gull" in the late evening backed from Vanceboro back to McAdam.
Passenger Equipment on Montreal Trains After 1949:
New streamlined light-weight express, baggage 7 postal cars were assigned
to the Montreal-Saint John service in conjunction with others that arrived
in th early 1940's, also new 40 foot steel express-refers of the 5800 and
5900 series. New streamlined light-weight "Deluxe" coaches of the 2200
series arrived, plus newly refurbished heavy-weight Dining cars, newly
rebuilt "Lake" series buffet-parlor-compartment sleepers. Other
heavy-weight sleepers were upgraded. The new "Grove" streamlined
light-weight roomette sleepers were also assigned to these trains 39, 40,
41, and 42.
A mixed-passenger day train called "The Scoot" operated at that time daily
except Sundays between Brownville Junction. Maine and Megantic, Quebec.
Eastbound train # 40 Montreal-Saint John "The Boat Train" daily except
Sundays arrived Saint John at 0630 and made connections to CPR's "Princess
Helene" for Digby, N.S. and DAR passenger trains on the Halifax-Yarmouth
and Yarmouth-Halifax run. Westbound train # 39 except Sundays departed
Saint John at 2000 after the arrival of the "Princess Helene" from Digby at
1830.
In 1952 heavy 4-6-2 *2332 arrived in New Brunswick from the Toronto area.
This locomotive was equipped with smoke-deflectors and for a period
assigned to the "Gull" service between Vanceboro, Maine and Saint John,
again replacing light modern 4-6-2 1256. Later *2332 was assigned to
freight service between Saint John & McAdam.
In the early 1950's during the Winter months the "Empress of
Australia"(2nd) operated the Trans-Atlantic passenger service Liverpool,
Eng. along with the "Empress of France" between Liverpool-West St. John.
The Empress of Australia(2nd) was purchased from the French Line, formerly
the Degrosse, replacing the "Empress of Canada"(2nd) gutted by fire at
Liverpool after coming out of refit.
CP Steamships passenger carrying "Beaver" cargo-express-passenger ships
also called at Saint John being the "Beaverburn"(2nd), "Beaverford"(2nd)
"Beaverlodge" There were four other "Beavers" new Post War cargo-express
ships on the UK-Continental Europe service-"Beavercove", "Beaverdell",
"BeaverLake" and "Beaverglen". The passenger carrying "Beavers" carried 35
passengers the first few years and then cut back to 12 passengers. The
immingrant ship "Beaverbrae" 2nd was mentioned earlier.
Next the mid-1950s-Diesels for "Atlantic Limited" service, new
stainless-steel passenger cars make their debut between Montreal-Saint John.
CP's 4-8-4 "Northern Type" locomotives* 3100 and* 3101 were bumped off
trains #21 and # 22 the "Chicago Express" and "Overseas Express" on the
Montreal-Toronto sector of these Chicago trains. CPR had plans to run these
locomotives through to Saint John, N.B. on passenger service-the story is
the U.S. Interstate Commerce Commission refused to allow these locomotives
to run through the State of Maine; CP then operated the two 4-8-4's on
Montreal-Saint John passenger trains as far as Megantic, Quebec. CPR later
sent them to Western Canada and were converted to oil burners with 3101 on
passenger trains Winnipeg-Moose Jaw, Sask. and other runs and 3100 shown as
freight service.
To Be Continued.
Don Scott-Coquitlam, B.C.
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