dear Anngwyn, Suzy and colleagues,
Thank you both for your thoughtful and thought provoking responses.
i continue to ponder the issue. I realize that I could not recollect an
extremist group or movement that was led by a woman. We had women very
involved and in subaltern positions within the Shinning Path movement here
in Peru but the leadership was male. There are accounts of extreme violence
perpetrated at the local level by women, those they led were principally
male.
What I have wondered is: are the male leaders a father substitute?
Throughout my recollection of history, the movements that have massacred
millions have all had an ultimate male figure at the helm. I am most
curious to perhaps learn a bit about the family systems that engendered the
human leaders of these movements. I would not be surprised to find certain
patterns emerging.
My condolences to Australia and to Pakistan for these completely unnecesary
deaths.
Abrazos and Happy Holidays from sunny Peru!
Stephen
On Tuesday, December 16, 2014, sbutz helpisit sbutz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hi Stephen, Angwyn and all,
I couldn't agree more, Angwyn : addictions are all stress and trauma
related. As we escalate up through the 'stress scale' towards the
overwhelm of trauma, we all have many coping behaviours that are
specifically designed to keep us from being aware of how overwhelmed we
are. This means that we can continue to live and reproduce, even if we are
left seriously damaged from the stress or trauma. And as trauma will
repeat until it is resolved, then it is often passed down through families
via DNA and/or via parenting techniques.
Coping behaviours include :
. Dissociation
. Compliance
. Numbness (physical and emotional)
. Inertia / Inertness
. Fantasy Thinking
. Over-rationalising
. Addictive Behaviours
. Addictive Substances
. Spirituality
If we view each coping behaviour on a continuum, then on one end the
behaviours can be 'healthy' : I can have a glass of wine with dinner
(potentially addictive substance), or I can shut off from the disagreement
I had with my spouse this morning and yet remain present for my clients
during the day (dissociation), or I can use my amazing imagination to
either write a novel or create a new house design or change my future
career (fantasy thinking). In this case, to be healthy, the behaviours are
done with at least some level of Awareness. At the opposite end these
behaviours are incredibly unhealthy and unproductive, and totally beyond my
capacity of Awareness, but they keep me alive. Most of us are somewhere
near the upper end of the continuum with the coping behaviours that we
utilise to minimise awareness of our own overwhelm, and we do them/use them
without Awareness.
These observations come from the purely physiological reactions we have to
stress and trauma.
So until we work with the stress and trauma, no matter which coping
behaviour we work with, it will be substituted by some other behaviour as
the organism needs to be kept safe from the overwhelm.
When we talk of a disturbed relationship with father, then it could be our
physical father or the Sacred Masculine. I would be investigating both as
well as working directly with reducing the physiological stress/trauma
within the person.
Speaking directly to the Sydney incident, I have been reflecting on this
line myself : multi-generational trauma on the physical, intellectual,
emotional and spiritual levels with absence of the Sacred Masculine and the
decimation of the Feminine meant this individual was going to cling to his
totally extreme end of the "spiritual" continuum.
I am currently writing more about these coping behaviours and their weak
mirroring of where we genuinely want to be/how we want to feel. If you want
more information on the physiological aspects of stress and trauma you
could look at the work of Peter Levine (stress and trauma cycle) and
Stephen Porges (polyvagal theory), and David Berceli's work with neurogenic
tremouring includes more information.
I hope this helps for now though.
Much love
Suzy
x
Suzanne Butz
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wrote:
Reading today's news of the hostage taking at a cafe in central Sydney and
the massacre of students and teachers in Pakistan I began to wonder if theIn my work with addictive behaviors I have experienced numerous cases of
systematic "profile" of a fanatic or extremist Is in any way related to
what we see when we work with addictive behaviors. The emotional absence of
the father.
giving up a substance addiction for a zealous religious behavior. In my
view it is merely switching "substances"
I would love to read of your thoughts.
Abrazos
Stephen
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