OK thanks Libby
Barbara
-----Original Message-----
From: libby shapiro [mailto:libbyshapiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 03 September 2004 21:54
To: ConstellationTalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ConstellationTalk] victims and perpetrators
Dear Barbara, I heard
the account of Timothy Mcveigh's story from a colleague, Karen Brown, who
studied with
Angwynn St Juste (or Just) . I have never seen the story in written form;
maybe you could contact Angwynn via internet? Bubula, thinking about your
question - if someone from McVeigh's family, or someone in the family of one
of his victims, came to work, that would be one thing, but I personally
don't feel it's my or our business otherwise to find out more. I set up
Abraham and his 'small'
family once, he and Sara and Hagar and the sons, as an illustration of order
and disorder in families-
that family conflict also seems to me to be part of the disorder at the
bottom of the conflicts in Israel,
but I won't go into looking for more answers. Maybe if I were an Israeli
citizen, Jewish or
Palestinian, I would feel differently. (My family of origin is American
Jewish, cultural/humanist, and my parents were very sad about the way the
State was set up, treatment of the Palestinians, etc.)
Dear Paul,
I was working on this mail earlier today, and came home now and see your
mail- have a playdate with some other babies and mine now, and I'm gone over
the long holiday weekend, look forward to responding next week.
take care everyone,
Libby S.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jo Fenwick" <jfenwick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "libby shapiro" <libbyshapiro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 3:54 AM
Subject: One Day Groups
Thanks for your suggestions Libby. I thought'd I ask you a few
questions directly....I hope you don't mind. No rush in replying.
I've ended running a couple of successful one-day events when numbers
weren't enough for 2-days and I just couldn't put the others off. Even
then one was only four people, three constellations. Still quite tiring
for me - also the work seems to take longer as I have to source much
more from the field myself rather than relying on the reps. That's ok
when it's a full day's work.
I was wondering how many you average both attendees and constellations
at your one day groups. Do you have a pool of faithful reps or how do
you do this? How many constellations do you average per day. Are you
still having to educate people
or is the work getting known better? Is anyone doing any advertising
over there? Nothing to speak of here. And virtually no PR. Word of
mouth about the only marketing. I don't think mainstream is quite ready
for overt activity as we're a business city (Melbourne) we deal with
serious stuff! I put up A4 flyers as I live just outside Melbourne -
semi-rural, so the shops are able to do it. Are you doing other
marketing things? Talks or else.
You've encouraged me to be more satisfied with one day events. Thanks!
I have a list of people who just can't do 2-days, so there's
Oh wowee - while I was typing about relying on the reps, I just got a
possible insight as to why I get tired - because I'm straining to 'read'
the field. And now I know what Thomas Falke meant when he said 'not
wanting to (sic) much'. I've been trying too hard. Anyway
