Good Morning All
I have a question to the group - I will be glad and thankfully to everybody
who can share
your experience about : "In vitro fertilization".
The real question is - did you work with couples before they began the
"ivf" treatment?
Did you find that family or other entanglements are the cause of
sterility? Did you find a difference between
infertile man or woman?
I do constellations more than 10 years - and I did work only with one
couple who's issue was infertility.They came to me before going to do
"ivf". I did work with the man about issues in his family. I do not
remember (generally) the constellations, so I do not remember the exact
theme. The woman did represent in other's constellations, but did not ask
to work herself.
After a few months I got a phone call - and the man told me that the next
month after his constellation "they" get pregnant and they are expecting 2
babys.(After some time, I met them accidentally with 2 beautiful little
babys.) He was sure that the ability to get pregnant was the direct outcome
of the constellation. Of course, I can not "prove"....but of course I like
to believe that there is a connection.
The last days this problem of infertility is largely discussed here in
Israel, as a result of a public sharing of this very painful and difficult
procedure.
For some time now, this issue is coming to my mind more and more, so I
have probably the need to know more. I can feel - that there is a need to
explore more, because of the increasing number of people who need help.
I want to share with you my experience of working with issues of children
who were born from sperm donation:
the single mother's issue was her connection to her mother. The
representant of the child was almost fainting. He could not stand,
he was looking all the time around, could not find his place. When I asked
a man to stand were he finds is his place, without telling him whom he was
representing, the representant of the boy went to him and sayed that this
is his place. He relaxed only when his mother did thank the anonymous
donor....And this is only one example.
Another example of the "ivf' treatments is "multiple fetuses" and the
doctors diminish ( i do not know the exact word) - take out one or more
fetuses.
Love
Caterina
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Thanks Robert,
Yes, who is playing it? a great question.
And why are They playing it?
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Thu Sep 6, 2012 4:29 pm (PDT) . Posted by:"Robert Grant"
Hello David and All,Refreshing to read your story of a personal journey.
To me one of the greatest revelation came from the works of Nisargadatta,
his encouragement to keep returning the focus of my awareness onto myself.
To see the world,the system, god, ancestors, machines, love, purpose,
despair, hope and everything else as somehow related to the central field
of me.What Fritz Perls, Alexander Lowen and others contributed to this is
the significance of allowing my body to fully participate in this
process.Finally constellation work when applied to myself provided a
wonderful context or ground where the unfolding could happening one very
importantproviso however: the state of consciousness of the facilitator.
Like aviolin. It is a most wonderful musical instrument, but a lot depends
on who is playing it.Best regards,
Robert
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