Joe..the very first one on the list you sent..also is 3.4..?? Should I try allllll of them to find 3.5? Jackie (Happy New Year) In a message dated 1/1/2006 11:08:31 AM Eastern Standard Time, cuffy10@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/sbdownload.html Make sure you get 3.5. MajorGeeks has 3.4 so use a diff mirror !