I stil have my ECG manual, not sure who it was either as t's in a box somewhere right now. Just got rid of a box of known good tubes and tester (mil surplus) last spring in trade for some other gear I needed. -----Original Message----- From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Cuffy10@xxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 9:18 PM To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [CTS] Re: New page for transistor users leads & equivalents for types pub... In a message dated 2/1/04 6:08:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, rhb57@xxxxxxxxxx writes: the ones we had in USAF technical training or from an old Radio Shack cross reference book - I can't remember but it might even be from ECG manual by one of the electronics firms ? There was another one too that contained about the same material ! I think they stopped about the time they added the third and fouth leads to transistors. It would take a barn door now to display a transistor outline. I may still have one for vac tubes too........ and I still have a couple of shoe boxes full of vacuum tubes. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~