I have gotten these for her: Firefox Camino (OS X feel to it. Still in beta, from mozilla.org) Both in case Safari are not the best. Acrobat Reader7.0.2 QuickTime 6.5.2 (7 is for latest OS only I had to search google which let me to a support page on apple.com that allowed a download for us people running older versios) Java Update from apple.com 10.2.8 update the security updates except the one below that has a 404 Wind Media Player 9 Firmware for the iMac and the drive OpenOffice 1.1.2 (from John. M.'s company he works for (ISU)) and 2.x beta from ISC (Was close enough to ISU) Although server wise ISC is kicking ISU 337kbs to 78kbs Could not get: Real (Must download a installer) Java cause you can only get it from Apple and they want your $$$ to stay current. Apple is like Microsoft in the past and worse. So darn prorietary and pushy to new versions. Did I miss any software? Anything free that she may need? I ordered the 512 meg ram and she will be upgraded to 10.2 and then to 10.2.8 Thanks, Eric _____ From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric C. Vogel Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 8:21 PM To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [CTS] Missing Mac Update Anyone have this one. The top one?: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75421