[CTS] Re: DIAL-UP MODEMS--NOT DEAD YET
- From: "Peter" <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:08:34 -0500
I believe that Netzero allows 40 hours a week as well...
Peter
http://peterszaro.com
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From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Eric C. Vogel
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 9:01 AM
To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [CTS] Re: DIAL-UP MODEMS--NOT DEAD YET
Use Juno, or MediaOne RR will give you 10 free hours of dial-up a month.
(Nationwide). Or use it when thier service goes down. (Prodiving Dial-up
still works.)
Eric Vogel
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Russ Blakeman" <russ@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 10:54 PM
Subject: [CTS] Re: DIAL-UP MODEMS--NOT DEAD YET
>
> I cannot for the life of me figure out why someone would pay AOL $2 to $9
> more a month for crappy ISP with advertisements that you have to deal
with,
> and then have them think they can go higher and stil keep the same
customer
> base!
>
> Try getting cable access when you're on the road, such as a salesperson.
You
> still need either a cell modem or regular pcmcia modem and jack for
dialup.
> I use an IBM P70 from time to time and have had to jack in at a customer's
> site and call my server to get a file or see how I did something on my
> machine, or get a file when they had no internet access. Without dialup
I'm
> dead.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Eric C. Vogel
> Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 7:04 PM
> To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [CTS] Re: DIAL-UP MODEMS--NOT DEAD YET
>
>
>
> Lets see, cable $40 if you already have cable service. SBC/Ameritech Min.
> bill $22.50 (Inlcides $3.95 for no long distance, $1-2 for having a second
> line.) + ISP cost $17.95 - $21.95 (AOL may raise prices soon.). Cable is
> cheaper and faster. Although, you must use a second line to get the
> savings....
>
> Eric Vogel
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> From: "Russ Blakeman" <russ@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 7:10 PM
> Subject: [CTS] Re: DIAL-UP MODEMS--NOT DEAD YET
>
>
> >
> > Now you are actually right and helpful for once. I have to agree with
you
> > here. Cable modems, ISDN, DLS and satellite leave you wide open
especially
> > if you're sharing machines and resources. That leaves you in need of a
> > firewall which may/may not help. Cost is another thing - cable is about
> $40
> > mo, DSL is also high in mnay places and non-existant in many cases,
> > satellite is as high as the satellite you're talking to/from. Apartment
> > dwellers, renters, students in dorms, etc aren't necessarily going to
get
> > all the equipment to do certain systems either as they end up with
> > reinstallation costs when they move and in some cases they're prohibited
> > from having these by their landlords due to sloppy installers that poke
> nice
> > ugly holes in your wall and run wire/cable on the outside of the wall.
> > Nothing likek an ivy-like black cable and stuck the side of brand new
> siding
> > that no longer is in use since the renter that had it installed left.
> >
> > Laptops are the next venue - they need to be standalone so the usual is
a
> > temp phone line hookup or a cell dialup unless they work with a company
> that
> > has their own satellite or radio WAN.
> >
> > I see dialup hanging around for some time, even in cities. Of all my
home
> > customers only about 60% even use the modem that came with their
machines,
> > even for faxes. Not because of ignorance either, just because they don't
> > have the need. I can forsee dialup changing in some ways as they learn
how
> > to multiplex signals more over copper line and get the analog-digital
more
> > towards digital. As fiber long distance gets more of a standard it will
> help
> > but the issue is still copper line from the home/office to the switching
> > stations. Fiber doesn't fair well as an overhead service line and is
> easily
> > damaged but they'r ecoming out with acrylic fibers soon that might
switch
> > our regular phone service to fiber at the interface level.
> >
> > Without the diversity there's no room for people with different needs
and
> > desires to all be able to do internet and other telecom. It will be nice
> > when things get to the point that telephone, data, video, radio and
> > television are all accesible with one 24" dish but that makes the need
for
> > encryption/scrambling even worse. Many people still don't use cordless
> > phones due to the possibility of privacy loss.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:computertalkshop-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Paul
> > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 5:40 PM
> > To: computertalkshop@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [CTS] Re: DIAL-UP MODEMS--NOT DEAD YET
> >
> >
> >
> > "Eric C. Vogel" wrote:
> > >
> > > Plus, with cable or DSL, you're
> > > always logged on--an advantage that supersedes the speed, in my mind.
> > Trust
> > > me. Once you get used to that blazing, incessant connection, you'll
> cringe
> > > at the beep-beep, buzzzzzz of a modem. \
> > >
> > Well, being connected constantly can also be a big disadvantage. If
> > your machine isn't on a private network, crackers can find it just by
> > nmapping networks looking for juicy targets. With dial-up, your IP
> > changes very frequently. Makes you harder to find reliably.
> >
> > Secondly, DSL coverage is still very sporadic. For a lot of places,
> > cable length is a serious problem. Where I was in Toronto I couldn't
> > get DSL. I lived in a building that was less than a year old, right at
> > the corner of Queens Quay and Bathurst. Now, for those that don't know
> > Toronto, that's right on the water front. You can't get more downtown
> > than that. I couldn't get DSL service - wire length too long. Same
> > went for CSC, a computer store at the corner of College and Spadina.
> > Again, if you can get DSL anywhere in Canada, you'd figure you could get
> > it there. Nope, they couldn't. Wire too long. It's going to be a LONG
> > time yet before modems become obsolete.
> >
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