RE: help! I'm being grilled!

  • From: "Joanna Paull" <joannapaull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 17:39:49 -0400

Becky--Thanks for the uplifting remarks.  If you saw my pathetic
attempts at my assignments today, you would not think so much.  I would
say, absolutely, that writing is a violent act for me this weekend.
Anyone out there inspired and willing to share an uplifting experience
of the process?  
Joanna


-----Original Message-----
From: comptesol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:comptesol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rebecca T Garvin
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 4:42 PM
To: comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: help! I'm being grilled!


Joanna,

You are amazing.  A true compositionist. Not even knowing the question 
you come up with a wonderful response.  
Becky

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 16:36:43 -0400
  "Joanna Paull" <joannapaull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>OK--a word is missing when you write "my would would help her in the 
>real world." Your what exactly?  The theory you are learning?  Your 
>degree?  I'm not clear why what YOU are learning about composition 
>should need to apply to math, but I guess she wants to make your mind 
>stretch on its days off, right?  Well, I would tell her that knowing 
>the theories of composition and literacy can help her to understand how
>students learn everything and grow as human beings.  If they do not
>understand the text, they do not understand the material.  If her
>discourse is too sophisticated, they will not learn. If she doesn't
>break a few barriers to help her students make applications to their
>lives, the material will not stick.  We learn, as I quote Blitz and
>Hurlbert, that we (teachers):
>
>"We want to change the world.
>We're supposed to change the world.
>No one can change the world.
>Our students must go "out" and change the world.
>Our children will change the world.
>Having children and teaching others
>Has already changed our world.
>It's too hard to change the world.
>Education should change the world.
>We must get out of the way so those who can will change the world. The 
>wrong people are changing the world. We are among those who are 
>changing the world. It's too late to change the world.
>It's too early to stop changing the world.
>
>Ours is a society that tolerates violence more and more as a natural 
>part of life and sees peace more and more as an abstraction.  The 
>teaching of writing is connected to the living.  Not living in the 
>abstract, but living--and dying."
>
>Now, first of all, that is some powerful shit for comp teachers. 
>Secondly, this perspective on teaching and living applies to all 
>teachers and all beings. If we can pass on the power that exists in 
>teachers to transform lives, your aunt will certainly appreciate what 
>you do.  No, that is not irrelevant, but I'm in a struggling 
>intellectual moment right now and I have nothing else to do but rant to
>the list serve.  
>
>Help, I need somebody.  Help, not just anybody, 
>HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: comptesol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:comptesol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of andrea wynn
>Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 3:36 PM
>To: comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: help! I'm being grilled!
>
>
> 
>What?  Your world isn't the real world of education?
>
>Andrea
>
>>From: "Klompien, Kathleen J." <KKlompien@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Reply-To:
>comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: 'Natalie Dorfeld ' 
><natalie_dorfeld@xxxxxxxxxxx>,"'comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx '" 
><comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: help! I'm being grilled! >Date: 
>Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:21:10 -0700 >>Hey all, >IUP and it's pressures are 
>far from my mind today as I am in beautiful >Montana surrounded by
>family--a
>lot of family--for my neice's wedding. One >hyper-conservative auth 
>this
>moring already grilled me about how my would >would help her in the 
>real
>world of education (she teaches 8th grade math, >hmmmm.) Got any 
>answers
>for her?
>>Entries should be as irreverant and tongue-in-cheek-as-possible!
>>>--Kath
>>>-----Original Message----- >From: Natalie Dorfeld >To:
>comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: 7/1/04 3:59 AM >Subject: RE: Don's 
>thoughts onwriting >>>>>Hola, Guys -- >>>>I feel your pain.  Writing, 
>for me at least,is hot or cold.  When it's >coming, breakout the 
>floodgates, baby! Andwhen it's not, I find myself >making paperclip 
>necklaces and disfigured farm animals out of bubble gum >wrappers. 
>>>>>When all else
>fails, take a walk.  Take a nap.  Take a chai break.  I >got a >great
>idea for a dissertation topic while climbing a tree in Mac Park >this
>>morning.  (I liketo pretend I'm a panther sometimes, but that's
>>another
>>story all
>together.) >>>>Be good.  Have a great 4th!  Mmmmm, beans and franks.
>>>>>-- Maria
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