Becky--Thanks for the uplifting remarks. If you saw my pathetic attempts at my assignments today, you would not think so much. I would say, absolutely, that writing is a violent act for me this weekend. Anyone out there inspired and willing to share an uplifting experience of the process? Joanna -----Original Message----- From: comptesol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:comptesol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rebecca T Garvin Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 4:42 PM To: comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: help! I'm being grilled! Joanna, You are amazing. A true compositionist. Not even knowing the question you come up with a wonderful response. Becky On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 16:36:43 -0400 "Joanna Paull" <joannapaull@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >OK--a word is missing when you write "my would would help her in the >real world." Your what exactly? The theory you are learning? Your >degree? I'm not clear why what YOU are learning about composition >should need to apply to math, but I guess she wants to make your mind >stretch on its days off, right? Well, I would tell her that knowing >the theories of composition and literacy can help her to understand how >students learn everything and grow as human beings. If they do not >understand the text, they do not understand the material. If her >discourse is too sophisticated, they will not learn. If she doesn't >break a few barriers to help her students make applications to their >lives, the material will not stick. We learn, as I quote Blitz and >Hurlbert, that we (teachers): > >"We want to change the world. >We're supposed to change the world. >No one can change the world. >Our students must go "out" and change the world. >Our children will change the world. >Having children and teaching others >Has already changed our world. >It's too hard to change the world. >Education should change the world. >We must get out of the way so those who can will change the world. The >wrong people are changing the world. We are among those who are >changing the world. It's too late to change the world. >It's too early to stop changing the world. > >Ours is a society that tolerates violence more and more as a natural >part of life and sees peace more and more as an abstraction. The >teaching of writing is connected to the living. Not living in the >abstract, but living--and dying." > >Now, first of all, that is some powerful shit for comp teachers. >Secondly, this perspective on teaching and living applies to all >teachers and all beings. If we can pass on the power that exists in >teachers to transform lives, your aunt will certainly appreciate what >you do. No, that is not irrelevant, but I'm in a struggling >intellectual moment right now and I have nothing else to do but rant to >the list serve. > >Help, I need somebody. Help, not just anybody, >HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >-----Original Message----- >From: comptesol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:comptesol-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of andrea wynn >Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 3:36 PM >To: comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: RE: help! I'm being grilled! > > > >What? Your world isn't the real world of education? > >Andrea > >>From: "Klompien, Kathleen J." <KKlompien@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Reply-To: >comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: 'Natalie Dorfeld ' ><natalie_dorfeld@xxxxxxxxxxx>,"'comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx '" ><comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: help! I'm being grilled! >Date: >Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:21:10 -0700 >>Hey all, >IUP and it's pressures are >far from my mind today as I am in beautiful >Montana surrounded by >family--a >lot of family--for my neice's wedding. One >hyper-conservative auth >this >moring already grilled me about how my would >would help her in the >real >world of education (she teaches 8th grade math, >hmmmm.) Got any >answers >for her? >>Entries should be as irreverant and tongue-in-cheek-as-possible! >>>--Kath >>>-----Original Message----- >From: Natalie Dorfeld >To: >comptesol@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Sent: 7/1/04 3:59 AM >Subject: RE: Don's >thoughts onwriting >>>>>Hola, Guys -- >>>>I feel your pain. Writing, >for me at least,is hot or cold. When it's >coming, breakout the >floodgates, baby! Andwhen it's not, I find myself >making paperclip >necklaces and disfigured farm animals out of bubble gum >wrappers. >>>>>When all else >fails, take a walk. Take a nap. Take a chai break. I >got a >great >idea for a dissertation topic while climbing a tree in Mac Park >this >>morning. (I liketo pretend I'm a panther sometimes, but that's >>another >>story all >together.) >>>>Be good. Have a great 4th! 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