I’m going to try to squeeze in a second viewing whilst it’s still in my
48-hour-paid-for period, especially given the view that it’s better on a
second go. My feeling on the first time round was, started well, finished
poorly. Even in a comic movie I wasn’t convinced by the wishstone plot device,
nor by Pascal’s acting. Gal Gadot & Kristin Wiig were great (until CGI took
over Wiig’s role at the end) but Gadot in particular wasn’t given enough good
stuff to do. The Egypt chase scene was far too long given its relative lack of
importance. And why put Steve in someone else’s body? Unnecessarily convoluted.
And in terms of DC continuity, wouldn’t everyone remember WW from this?
Meanwhile though - I liked the Amazon and mall scenes a lot. The whole
invisible plane sequence and flying sequences were brilliant.
Sent from a galaxy far far away
On 17 Jan 2021, at 17:21, Bret Mixon <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Some have compared WW84's mall robbery scene to SUPERMAN 3's opening scene -
that seems apt.
I'm happy I watched WW84. I'm happier I didn't pay for it. But I have no
desire to see it again.
On Sunday, January 17, 2021, 06:34:47 AM PST, Michael Lustig
<michael.lustig@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
WW84 certainly wasn't the worst superhero movie, but it *cannot* be properly
compared to 1978's Superman! Without getting into the details of superior
cinematography (Unsworth), script (lots of tinkering), director (Donner), and
stars (Brando!, Hackman!, etc.), the mere fact that the points where the
plot/origin presented in Superman deviated from the previous canon - and then
ultimately became the new canon - speaks to the deep influence of the movie
on the comics. It essentially reversed the 'natural' creative direction!
From a pure-movie standpoint, Superman & WW84 are so not-in-the-same-league,
such that it's somewhat embarrassing to even be having this discussion. With
all due respect to Elliot S! Maggin, I must disagree with his comparison.
I watched the movie on its first day of release on HBO Max, but I'm
definitely *not* rushing to see it again. It's worth a first viewing if you
can see it for 'free', but having seen it already I would now tell my
three-weeks-ago self that there's no reason to make any special effort to see
it.
-Michael
On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 2:22 AM Andy Mangels <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
I also found it better on the second viewing, allowing my expectations to
calm down, and to realize that some of my complaints HAD been addressed by
small bits of dialogue that had sailed by on the first viewing.
It's not the first film, but neither does it deserve some of the critical
bricks thrown at it.
Best,
Andy Mangels
AMangelsSW@xxxxxxx
www.andymangels.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Kin Wong <skizzoid@xxxxxxxxx>
To: comicartl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, Jan 16, 2021 5:13 pm
Subject: [comicart-l] Re: WW1984
I recognize that there are (several) flaws with the movie, but I still really
enjoyed it in spite of them. It didn't meet my high expectations going in,
but a second viewing helped me appreciate it for what it wants to be/say.
The comparison to the Donner Superman movies is apt.
On Sat, Jan 16, 2021 at 5:49 PM Malcolm Bourne <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
So who has seen WW1984? We watched it this evening on TV, it’s on a “rent for
48 hours” basis in the UK just now. Anyone got any opinions?
Malcolm
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